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mopinko

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43. whatever.

Thu May 14, 2015, 07:15 PM

May 2015

i am well informed. i know history. i am not naive. i know there will be no unicorns.
but what we are doing how is clearly not working. if it gives us more leverage over how workers are treated in china, and how the environment is being destroyed it MIGHT be a better thing than nothing.
that is hardly blind faith.
nor is anything else that i said.

but enjoy your black and white world. it is so much simpler that way.

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The TPP is a simple proposition [View all] kentuck May 2015 OP

Essentially, that's about it. cali May 2015 #1

The problem is: kentuck May 2015 #2

TPA also makes the likelihood of LOTS of free trade agreements being passed that are stillwaiting May 2015 #3

Let me tell you an anecdotal experience of mine. Cleita May 2015 #4

Thanks for your comments, Cleita. kentuck May 2015 #6

You could sadly say the exact same thing about Obama. lark May 2015 #18

We mostly export basic food. jeff47 May 2015 #8

I read or heard on the radio this week. Senior memory, but I do remember the Cleita May 2015 #10

Unfortunately true. kentuck May 2015 #14

How can anyone Aerows May 2015 #32

Ugh. That's truly revolting. Cleita May 2015 #34

The biggest problem for the US with corporate thinking Curmudgeoness May 2015 #15

Leaders are paid well by the 1% to only look out for them. lark May 2015 #20

It is actually complicated though,Americans want cheap sufrommich May 2015 #5

Americans do like cheap stuff... kentuck May 2015 #7

So who gets to be the first politician to tell people with AIDS that they can die? Autumn May 2015 #11

it's not about trade. there's plenty trade going on between all these counties. i was born at night, KG May 2015 #9

Baloney. MohRokTah May 2015 #12

Are you calling me an extremist? kentuck May 2015 #13

Did I say that in my response? MohRokTah May 2015 #24

Did you interpret my post as "black or white"? kentuck May 2015 #26

Your post was certainly black and white. MohRokTah May 2015 #27

I did not alert on you. kentuck May 2015 #29

Just returning the favor. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #30

I'll make a note. kentuck May 2015 #31

the simple answer is always so appealing, but mopinko May 2015 #16

What has happened to the Democratic Party? kentuck May 2015 #17

before will rogers, at least. mopinko May 2015 #35

Is there an opposite to evolution? kentuck May 2015 #36

we have never been the party of black and white. mopinko May 2015 #37

You see a "lot of grey"? kentuck May 2015 #38

i cant, since i dont know what is in it. mopinko May 2015 #39

So, by blind faith, you believe it will not be as bad as people fear?? kentuck May 2015 #40

whatever. mopinko May 2015 #43

I was trying to discuss an issue... kentuck May 2015 #44

TPP does not contain checks on the mulinationals, quite the opposite. lark May 2015 #21

Could you provide the quotes to that effect? MohRokTah May 2015 #25

I suspect the final agreement will be a mix of good and bad. MohRokTah May 2015 #23

"You are with America or you are with the terrorists", black hat/white hat thinking is....boring. Fred Sanders May 2015 #19

And using the binary logic of the OP, the republican base is 'for the people' while the Democratic pampango May 2015 #33

Outrage requires complicity. Fred Sanders May 2015 #41

How so? kentuck May 2015 #42

The republican base opposes TPP while the Democratic base supports it. pampango May 2015 #45

But corporations ARE people. John Roberts says so. tclambert May 2015 #22

A brilliantly clear explanation, kentuck. hifiguy May 2015 #28