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EX500rider

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29. "Daniel Faulkner, was shot and killed by somebody"

Thu May 14, 2015, 10:27 PM

May 2015

Somebody with Mumia's gun you mean, who also got shot in return.....or did the cop decide not to shoot the shooter, but some random person? lol So Mumia ran up to a stranger, handed him his gun out of his shoulder holster so he could shoot a cop? lol

A .38 caliber Charter Arms revolver, belonging to Abu-Jamal, with five spent cartridges was retrieved beside him at the scene. He was wearing a shoulder holster, and Anthony Paul, the Supervisor of the Philadelphia Police Department's firearms identification unit, testified at trial that the cartridge cases and rifling characteristics of the weapon were consistent with bullet fragments taken from Faulkner's body.

If the defense had any thought he was not guilty, they would have gone with more then just "character witnesses".

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N.J. teacher fired over students' 'get well' letters to convicted cop killer [View all] hack89 May 2015 OP

I don't get the problem Kalidurga May 2015 #1

Or Mumia is a cop killing murderer - take your pick hack89 May 2015 #2

What evidence do you have he is a murderer? Kalidurga May 2015 #4

I have no strong feelings about him one way or the other hack89 May 2015 #6

He's been convicted of murder leftynyc May 2015 #9

He never even denied killing the cop (nt) Nye Bevan May 2015 #38

isn't he in jail? samsingh May 2015 #74

I don't see the problem with sending him well wishes even if he did kill a cop. morningfog May 2015 #31

Some parents don't want their kids communicating with criminals hack89 May 2015 #35

We communicate and interact with "criminals" everyday. morningfog May 2015 #36

I have never communicated with a murderer hack89 May 2015 #37

You have absolutely no way of knowing that. morningfog May 2015 #43

Are you deliberately being obtuse? hack89 May 2015 #46

So you concede you have no way of knowing how many "criminals," "convicted murderers" or morningfog May 2015 #75

In this case, the parents have a way of knowing. delta17 May 2015 #94

Oh please - convicted cop murderer. 840high May 2015 #86

Huh? morningfog May 2015 #93

You are splitting hairs here. delta17 May 2015 #95

I am saying the teacher was wrong. 840high May 2015 #106

I'm with you morningfog. Damn, he was convicted in 1981, which in itself doesn't grant him any ... BlueJazz May 2015 #45

So then, birthday cards for Charles Manson? brooklynite May 2015 #62

For fucks sake. morningfog May 2015 #112

May he continue to rot... Oktober May 2015 #113

He will. Anyway, there's ten of thousands who should be with him...and they're not. BlueJazz May 2015 #117

So it's a good start... Oktober May 2015 #118

I get the problem. These are third grade students and she cali May 2015 #3

I think perhaps she should have used the opportunity to educate the parents. Kalidurga May 2015 #5

It's a horrible example B2G May 2015 #10

Bad idea cali May 2015 #17

The school board used the opportunity to educate her. pintobean May 2015 #59

But if she had them send letters to Dick Cheney she would never have been fired... Human101948 May 2015 #21

Convicted murderers are still people. I don't have a problem with using it as a lesson in compassion morningfog May 2015 #32

they are 8 and 9 years old- far too young. And there's something cali May 2015 #42

She certainly could have done it better. morningfog May 2015 #44

"Mumia is a political prisoner" Not sure you know what that means... EX500rider May 2015 #11

How does any of that make him a "political prisoner"? NaturalHigh May 2015 #13

You could have read just a teensy bit further in the Wiki entry. Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #15

I read the whole thing....fact is he was convicted of murder. EX500rider May 2015 #16

Don't expect any actual answers of facts. NaturalHigh May 2015 #24

They planted the bullet in his body after the fact of course. NotoriousRBG May 2015 #30

Yes, witnesses have recanted. nt bananas May 2015 #102

Here's a news article from 1996 bananas May 2015 #104

Excellent use of the copy and paste function Kalidurga May 2015 #18

"But it adds absolutely nothing in the form of evidence." EX500rider May 2015 #19

Eye witness testimony is notoriously bad or just wrong. Kalidurga May 2015 #20

How about the gunshot wound from the officers gun & his gun shooting him dead? EX500rider May 2015 #23

The officers gun shot him dead? Kalidurga May 2015 #25

Mumia's gun shot the officer. EX500rider May 2015 #27

Eye witnesses still continue to be unreliable perhaps you have some gunshot residue to talk about... Kalidurga May 2015 #28

"Daniel Faulkner, was shot and killed by somebody" EX500rider May 2015 #29

Ideologues even more so. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #70

The problem is the children are learning that... Taitertots May 2015 #53

LOL.... I'm assuming you don't have children. n/t prayin4rain May 2015 #88

Glad she won't be teaching future children anymore. yeoman6987 May 2015 #99

How disgusting. If I were a parent there I would be outraged. Mumia is a cop killer and a scumbag. tritsofme May 2015 #7

"Mumia is a cop killer and a scumbag." NaturalHigh May 2015 #14

If the intent was to teach compassion, why not pick someone closer, who could reciprocate?. . . Journeyman May 2015 #8

Totally agree! vankuria May 2015 #71

Stupid of her cwydro May 2015 #12

I had no idea Mumia had a pit bull! KamaAina May 2015 #22

I heard Kalidurga May 2015 #26

Apparently he murdered a guy. Throd May 2015 #33

They've moved on from the Boston University assistant professor to the next target alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #41

It's shocking that someone this dumb can get a job as a teacher. Renew Deal May 2015 #34

One less bad teacher out there FLPanhandle May 2015 #39

Ummm.... having 8-year olds write letters to convicted cop-killers? Nye Bevan May 2015 #40

She wasn't "having" them write the letters. DanTex May 2015 #47

Why did the teacher choose to tell the kids about a convicted cop killer being ill? Nye Bevan May 2015 #50

Mumia was apparently a topic of a "social justice curriculum" that she was teaching. DanTex May 2015 #58

Hmmmm..... she could have chosen Michael Brown, Eric Garner, or any number of current stories, Nye Bevan May 2015 #72

How do you know she didn't? But nobody objected to including Abu-Jamal in the curriculum. DanTex May 2015 #73

Here's a nice summary Orrex May 2015 #83

Good, we've heard from cracked.com. Let's see what Amnesty International has to say. DanTex May 2015 #84

It's not Cracked.com's opinion; you're playing the ad hominem card Orrex May 2015 #96

Of course it's cracked.com's opinion. That's who published it. DanTex May 2015 #97

You're simply wrong. Orrex May 2015 #100

You just admitted that I'm right. DanTex May 2015 #103

You're now nitpicking trivial minutiae Orrex May 2015 #107

Well, now we're getting somewhere. DanTex May 2015 #109

I'm glad you aren't a teacher. morningfog May 2015 #76

If the teacher had been assaulted at an ATM and her attacker were now ill in prison... Orrex May 2015 #51

By all accounts, she was an exemplary teacher, and there aren't any allegations that she DanTex May 2015 #54

I simply don't believe that. Orrex May 2015 #63

Obviously, you're wrong. A lot of adults, very intelligent ones, have been told the objective facts DanTex May 2015 #69

Obviously, her class is not made up of adults, nor is Nelson Mandela among her students. Orrex May 2015 #80

Missing the point... DanTex May 2015 #85

Do you personally believe that Mumia killed him or not? Orrex May 2015 #98

I have no idea. Do you think Amnesty International is wrong about his trial being unfair? DanTex May 2015 #101

I don't believe that his trials have been sufficiently unfair to mitigate his guilt or conviction Orrex May 2015 #105

Now there's justice! No, he didn't get a fair trial, but who cares! DanTex May 2015 #110

Over at conservativecrackpots.com they hate Mumia and use cracked.com as an authoritative source. nt bananas May 2015 #120

Since when is learning about Abu Jamal in the curriculum for kids? FLPanhandle May 2015 #55

The children asked to write the letters. She didn't assign them. DanTex May 2015 #48

Yes, she should have said that, being the adult in charge. hack89 May 2015 #49

That would be imposing her personal political beliefs on the children. DanTex May 2015 #52

Then she should notified the parents hack89 May 2015 #64

I agree, she should have notified the parents. But it's still not worthy of firing her. DanTex May 2015 #67

and you don't think she "imposed her political beliefs" by bringing up Mumia in the first place? brooklynite May 2015 #68

She already did that. Look, if she'd decided to discuss this with cali May 2015 #78

It wasn't her decision to have a social justice curriculum be part of the 3rd grade class. DanTex May 2015 #81

presumably she decided to introduce Mumia as a figure fighting for social justice cali May 2015 #89

Probably. Apparently she decided to have them comment on a quote of his: DanTex May 2015 #92

I agree. If the transmission of the letters (and perhaps the tweeting petronius May 2015 #116

Those people are ill informed... Oktober May 2015 #115

Why? Felons are just as deserving of empathy as you. Taitertots May 2015 #57

They aren't deserving of correspondence from small children prayin4rain May 2015 #91

How do you know they haven't written others? morningfog May 2015 #77

After she brought it to their attention that he was "gravely ill" MH1 May 2015 #56

Yes, she did. Is there a problem with mentioning that? DanTex May 2015 #65

She should have said "You are free to write any letter on your own time" FLPanhandle May 2015 #61

You seriously believe they asked??? justamama83 May 2015 #82

Yes. And nobody has suggested otherwise. DanTex May 2015 #90

She deserved to go... brooklynite May 2015 #60

You underestimate third graders. morningfog May 2015 #79

Why did she not inform the parents or school administrators? Orrex May 2015 #108

Should a teacher get clearance from parents and admin morningfog May 2015 #111

Of course, that wasn't my assertion. Orrex May 2015 #119

Glad she's gone. 840high May 2015 #87

Termination seems harsh, but not unreasonable. aikoaiko May 2015 #66

The lengths people go to romanic May 2015 #114