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jeff47

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9. Yeah, if Democratic turnout dropped by 11%, that would do nothing!

Fri May 15, 2015, 02:48 PM

May 2015

Why, it'd be like the difference between the turnout in 2008 and 2010. And look how that had absolutely no effect on the results!

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AFL-CIO chief: White House trade bill argument is ‘unadulterated horse waste’ [View all] kpete May 2015 OP

"If the president wins this fight, Democrats will be in the minority for a decade or so" Cali_Democrat May 2015 #1

I think he's saying Democrats will have lost the support of union members daredtowork May 2015 #2

UNIONS have been one of the most dependable voting blocks... bvar22 May 2015 #6

+1 daleanime May 2015 #19

If the Democratic Party doesn't take the side of unions and American workers rhett o rick May 2015 #3

Those are strong words in a country where unions represent only 11.5% of workers. Hoyt May 2015 #4

The destruction of UNIONS is part of the Clinton/Obama legacy. bvar22 May 2015 #7

Whata they going to do, vote for Republicans? Besides, a big portion of those 11.5% are government Hoyt May 2015 #10

never mind... nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #12

You weren't paying attention in 2012 obviously. The Unions are not alone. sabrina 1 May 2015 #65

Yeah, if Democratic turnout dropped by 11%, that would do nothing! jeff47 May 2015 #9

Do you think union members are that stupid? I guess bully Trumka is going to convince them to sit Hoyt May 2015 #11

Yes, then Republicans would pass free trade deals. jeff47 May 2015 #13

The free trade deals don't affect near as many, if any, people as some want us to believe. Hoyt May 2015 #14

Yes, people having higher incomes have absolutely no effect on businesses selling more jeff47 May 2015 #15

I think lots of people like truck drivers, port workers, auto workers in states where foreign plants Hoyt May 2015 #17

You mean the much smaller number of people who got those jobs? jeff47 May 2015 #23

Even the wildest estimates of the impact of NAFTA was less than 1 million jobs, and the method of Hoyt May 2015 #24

Guess what! There's more free trade deals than NAFTA. jeff47 May 2015 #27

I know, USA first, even if we've taken more than our fair share of the world's wealth and resources. Hoyt May 2015 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author neverforget May 2015 #45

And yet ( again ) you direct your blame ( and utter contempt ) at the working class in the US Populist_Prole May 2015 #67

You had better give us some links to back up your wild claims. bvar22 May 2015 #16

Which claims would you like links for? If you have contradictory info, will be glad to read it. Hoyt May 2015 #20

Never mind again nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #18

Yep, the dozen or so area people I know who lost their manfacturing jobs Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #21

This message was self-deleted by its author ibewlu606 May 2015 #35

60,000 factories and 6 million jobs lost Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #52

Those folks take the trade deficit and multiple by 7 to 8000 jobs, assuming it represents stuff that Hoyt May 2015 #53

Many factories were literally dismantled and moved overseas, these were not buggy-whip makers. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #68

Of course they aren't that stupid, But they might just be that pissed. Autumn May 2015 #43

I think there is a strong argument they weren't stabbed in the back. Hoyt May 2015 #44

Then you ought to make that argument. And the question I asked yesterday still stands. Autumn May 2015 #50

We do a ton of legwork for elections. Starry Messenger May 2015 #22

The other 88.5% sit in Right To Work states wondering where their jobs went. countryjake May 2015 #29

Oh, my. Trumka's a bully. Eleanors38 May 2015 #31

Fake Dem's working with Real Repug's, Give real Dem's a bad name. bahrbearian May 2015 #5

Voting isn't a zero-sum game. You don't have to vote for the Republican jeff47 May 2015 #8

And not voting at alll instead of voting Dem means what exactly? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #32

That the Democrat loses. jeff47 May 2015 #33

There are more opponents of free trade within the Democratic party. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #36

Yeah, that's why Democrats just voted down TPA....oh wait, they didn't (nt) jeff47 May 2015 #72

The majority of Dems in the Senate voted against it. nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #73

And that almost matters. jeff47 May 2015 #78

If it is the sellout dems that lose over the course of several elections they will be purged betterdemsonly May 2015 #62

No, I think if this deal passes, there will be a new party. A party of the people, a Labor Party. sabrina 1 May 2015 #55

A new party? Sweet. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #56

NO, what we have now is the 'new party'. 'New Democrats', who are they? Wall St Investors. The Dem sabrina 1 May 2015 #58

Thirdway is code for third party! Interesting observation! n/t betterdemsonly May 2015 #59

So this new 'party of the people' doesn't have a website? nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #60

Tell us again how "progressive" the TPP is, Mr. President. Maedhros May 2015 #25

K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #26

The only unadulterated horse waste in this article is Trumka's BeyondGeography May 2015 #28

What you say should make you wonder why our prez fights so hard... countryjake May 2015 #38

They were hoping you would say that BeyondGeography May 2015 #39

Oh, I see. So fast-track and the TPP is a Republican trick to smear Obama with? countryjake May 2015 #40

They're enjoying your demoralization BeyondGeography May 2015 #42

Of course it is. Obama was just playing 630 gazillion million dimensional chess. Autumn May 2015 #51

So we can't point out that Obama is getting most of his help from Republicans? neverforget May 2015 #46

Feel free; but that shouldn't lead you to conclude that the two parties BeyondGeography May 2015 #47

"they have much bigger problems than TPP" Yep. with friends like Democrats that sell neverforget May 2015 #48

The treaty isn't worth half the spittle that has been flecked over it BeyondGeography May 2015 #49

So? Do you always go by who and not what? treestar May 2015 #75

Your post is a perfect example of doublespeak. DEMOCRATS are pushing through TPP. nt Romulox May 2015 #71

I have come to the conclusion ruffburr May 2015 #30

Rec'd ibewlu606 May 2015 #34

Here is the thing Robbins May 2015 #41

Yep. Thank you. 840high May 2015 #54

That about sums it up. (nt) Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #63

+1 liberal_at_heart May 2015 #66

I just call it plain old HORSESHIT. 99Forever May 2015 #57

K&R! marym625 May 2015 #61

They said that? MFrohike May 2015 #64

K&R woo me with science May 2015 #69

Brave Soldiers To The End colsohlibgal May 2015 #70

He hasn't really made his case treestar May 2015 #74

Trumka is absolutely correct. hifiguy May 2015 #76

kick! woo me with science May 2015 #77

K&R! Omaha Steve May 2015 #79