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Jackpine Radical

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94. It don't matter nun wot dem furriners think. We're speshl.

Fri May 15, 2015, 04:24 PM

May 2015

Even at the time, it was clear that we were entering under a false pretext. And it is obvious that many are hungering for more war with Iraq, with Russia, with whomever we can egg into a fight. For the sake of the fight--or, more correctly, for the sake of the money that goes flying into the coffers of the MIC, the oil companies, etc.

Wars, like depressions, are simply those times when money flows back to its natural owners, to paraphrase Andrew Mellon, Herbert Hoover's Sec of Treasury in about 1931.

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Bernie Sanders' Troubling History of Supporting US Military Violence Abroad [View all] ellenrr May 2015 OP

Oh my! leftofcool May 2015 #1

how do you know it's all true? cali May 2015 #3

I honestly don't know or remember enough about Kososvo cali May 2015 #2

After calling out so many people on adoration and worship of Obama or Hillary treestar May 2015 #36

wow. could you possibly be LESS honest here? I clearly am criticizing him cali May 2015 #40

Hillary has lowlife people like Ray McGovern arrested Jackpine Radical May 2015 #66

I'm getting weary of the bold faced lies. cali May 2015 #69

Ya gotta be an idiot (or a Republican--but I repeat myself) Jackpine Radical May 2015 #70

Ray Mcgovern is a lowlife? n/t Peregrine Took May 2015 #83

Sarcasm is not obvious? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #86

Hells yeah. +a million Number23 May 2015 #103

It was a genocide happening imnew May 2015 #98

Our son was there also, this was a necessary operation, for sure. randys1 May 2015 #101

The Bosnian Serbs were engaged in genocide BainsBane May 2015 #4

Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #11

I read this as nothing more than a hit piece on Sanders... Javaman May 2015 #46

+1 Go Vols May 2015 #49

Javaman - I'm totally not an JustAnotherGen May 2015 #61

+2000 pinboy3niner May 2015 #14

But when it's Obama or someone else treestar May 2015 #37

Jan. 20, 2017 is going to be a sad sad day for you. Autumn May 2015 #44

No it's not. treestar May 2015 #53

Yes it will. I was a Hillary supporter till the very end, the proudest day in my life Autumn May 2015 #57

Yes. There are pacifists on DU. ieoeja May 2015 #79

I'm no pacifist--I'd fight any invader of American soil, for example-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #89

Most DUers correctly predicted it would create sectarian strife in Iraq. ieoeja May 2015 #93

It don't matter nun wot dem furriners think. We're speshl. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #94

Obama ran on escalating the war in Afghanistan BainsBane May 2015 #99

What I continue to observe TM99 May 2015 #5

Yes, absolutely. (nt) Jackpine Radical May 2015 #68

"The belief is somehow that progressives are equal to purists." They fall for their own propaganda. ieoeja May 2015 #87

Here is a 100% deception. Bonobo May 2015 #6

yeah, it's a flat out lie. cali May 2015 #7

alternet - crappy slams against both Hillary and Sanders OKNancy May 2015 #8

I remain a staunch Hillary supporter. BlueMTexpat May 2015 #9

Plus 1000 JustAnotherGen May 2015 #12

Same here. I like them both. lovemydog May 2015 #25

Another +100. What's most interesting about this thread is watching Bernie's most avid "supporters" Number23 May 2015 #104

This. Agschmid May 2015 #31

Yeah, that article stunk of CounterPunch bullshit. NuclearDem May 2015 #45

I happen to agree with each of his actions. wyldwolf May 2015 #10

Agreed on all counts. No criticism re: Sanders from me on those items stevenleser May 2015 #51

I would bet his supporters also agree with wyldwolf. ieoeja May 2015 #90

I disagree with him on Israel. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #92

+1 leftofcool May 2015 #80

And how does this compare to Hillary Clinton? Oops! nt Romulox May 2015 #13

Looks like they're about even ucrdem May 2015 #15

Not hardly. You're pretending to forget Senator Clinton's shameful AUMF vote. nt Romulox May 2015 #16

Distinction without a difference. ucrdem May 2015 #19

If that's all hes got, Go Vols May 2015 #50

hardly all of it either. cali May 2015 #20

Evidently Bernie voted for Bill Clinton's little wars. ucrdem May 2015 #21

sorry, it's just embarrassing watching you push this lame line cali May 2015 #24

He votes the way I'd expect a Vermont independent to vote. ucrdem May 2015 #26

lol you really aren't very good at this whole discussion/debate thing cali May 2015 #29

Actually I'm a Democrat kind of person and would prefer to avoid a disaster on Nov. 8 2016. nt ucrdem May 2015 #32

sure you are. uh huh. yeppers. cali May 2015 #34

I am, thanks. I suppose I should ask you the same question? ucrdem May 2015 #35

Odd characterization. kenfrequed May 2015 #30

I think it may be a (feeble) attempt to slam me cali May 2015 #33

Sanders might be honorable but the campaign he's running isn't ucrdem May 2015 #41

stop inventing shit. I've posted PROOF that the TPP negotiations cali May 2015 #52

Support is not "proof," and inconvenient is not "secret." ucrdem May 2015 #56

a spurious comparison. cali May 2015 #58

Great. Now how about the question above? nt ucrdem May 2015 #59

Jury results JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #105

Thanks for posting that and thanks alerter! ucrdem May 2015 #106

He is the ONLY candidate that I know of who G_j May 2015 #62

lol. oh you mean Hillary voted against the IWR, the biggest fucking disaster cali May 2015 #17

Laugh. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #18

And the lame attempts at smear continue. 99Forever May 2015 #22

Goes...they've been on the attack since long before she announced davidpdx May 2015 #27

Yeah, sure. 99Forever May 2015 #28

I'm uncommitted, but I lose respect for posters who bring crap like this here. nt pinboy3niner May 2015 #23

He can't be any worse.. sendero May 2015 #38

I think Kosovo and Afghanistan are a non-issue for him Renew Deal May 2015 #39

Those positions don't trouble me muriel_volestrangler May 2015 #42

Surprising a "real" progressive would be so pro-Israel. DCBob May 2015 #43

Please stop making stuff up. he is definitely not to the right of Clinton on Israel cali May 2015 #55

I may be mistaken on Hillary but he does appear to be right of the President. DCBob May 2015 #72

I'd say he's almost exactly where the President is cali May 2015 #73

From reading stuff here on DU I would assume near perfection is required to be a real progressive. DCBob May 2015 #74

"near perfection is required to be a real progressive." ieoeja May 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author DCBob May 2015 #75

This is dumb. There is no presidential candidate who's going to sufrommich May 2015 #47

Ridiculous half-truth hit piece. Alternet needs better editors emulatorloo May 2015 #48

Naw, they just need to go away! leftofcool May 2015 #82

Kosovo was a moral imperative. Nothing like Iraq. Or Gaza. KittyWampus May 2015 #54

Just want to point out that the op has done a hit and run. cali May 2015 #60

So Bernie gets a pass on guns and now war as well workinclasszero May 2015 #63

Not at all. He doesn't get a pass on guns. Many of us cali May 2015 #65

Michael Arria is, of course, a hack. OilemFirchen May 2015 #64

Bernie is a politician just like Hillary, albeit to her left... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #67

So...you think the good approach is once the vote to send troops passes jeff47 May 2015 #71

Let me fix that for you. ieoeja May 2015 #76

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #77

You people are pitiful Trajan May 2015 #78

Let's apply some Third Way logic to this situation. Maedhros May 2015 #81

Sanders is certainly the "lesser of two evils", not Clinton. arcane1 May 2015 #85

I find it comical that those who sneer at us lefties for engaging in "purity" politics Maedhros May 2015 #88

It's all they have. arcane1 May 2015 #91

They fell for their own propaganda. ieoeja May 2015 #96

I think it's simpler than that. Maedhros May 2015 #97

Thank God we have an anti-war alternative in Clinton arcane1 May 2015 #84

ding ding ding.... mike_c May 2015 #102

We were justified to use force in Afghanistan and Kosovo tabasco May 2015 #100

I have to agree... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #109

K&R cprise May 2015 #107

The Kosovo thing is THE most troubling thing about Bernie nationalize the fed May 2015 #108