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Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
13. 23 hours a day of solitary confinement for life.
Fri May 15, 2015, 09:21 PM
May 2015

A major problem with these things is what you might call "penalty creep." All prison systems are overcrowded, so you're gonna make sure those Supermax slots are filled by SOMEBODY, whether or not they are the "worst of the worst" in the system.

When the Supermax was first proposed for WI by Toxic Tommy Thompson, the DOC didn't even want it; the max security joints were just fine for housing even the worst of the criminal population, and they didn't want the potential liabilities that could arise from "unconventional" punishment.

Here is a passage from something written by an inmate at Wisconsin's Boscobel Supermax about a year ago:

The German philosopher Nietzsche [said], “That which does not kill us makes us stronger,” which may or may not be valid. From my own experiences and observations from being in solitary confinement over the years…I have witnessed men having mental and emotional breakdowns so intense that they need to be prescribed anti-psychotic medications and clinical therapy.
I’ve seen prisoners who were unable to endure such long terms of confinement in solitary attempt to commit suicide, smear their fecal matter over their bodies, cells, and even eat their body waste. I’ve witnessed them cut themselves, and some who – lacking any sharp object to cut themselves with, use their teeth to rip their flesh so as to expose their veins and rip those out to spray their blood all over their cell doors, windows, floors, etc.

I’ve seen yet others simply cry like unfed, hungry babies all day and all night, and some lash out yelling and screaming all day, all night, banging on walls and cell doors, trying to get some form of acknowledgement from their jailers that they are human beings, only to be sprayed with various forms of chemical agents, left incapacitated in their cells. Only then to be taken and have their cloths cut from their bodies and put nude into a yet more restrictive type of segregation status, called “control status.” There, they have nothing in their cell but a concrete slab to sleep on, a stainless steel sink and toilet combo, a surveillance camera and 24 hours a day of bright light cell illumination.

Removal from this status is determined by “a white shirt” [supervisor]. No standards or process is due or available. We only have a potentially mentally and emotionally disturbed prisoner at the mercy of a sadistic and possibly masochistic white shirt, who knows no limits and has no psychiatric training.

While the prisoners mentally and emotionally regress, [a prisoner with mental illness] is often cheered on and encouraged by bored corrections officers to regress even lower. I’ve witnessed officers…encourage a mentally ill prisoner who had smeared feces all over his control cell window, to lick it off, and they would give him some milk. And this prisoner licked most of the fecal matter off of the window, and was “awarded” by the officer who threw an old milk to the prisoner through a lower trap door to the cell.


http://solitarywatch.com/2014/05/19/voices-from-solitary-analyzing-isolation-part-iii/

Edited to add--
Some years ago, when I was a regional chief psychologist in the WI Correctional system, I recommended an ex-intern for a Corrections job. He ended up at Boscobel. He had to quit because he just couldn't live with what was being done to people there. He said he almost felt like he was being intensely pressured to act like one of those Guantanamo psychologists who not only participated in the torture, but helped to invent & refine it.
Thoughts on the Death Penalty [View all] Jackpine Radical May 2015 OP
I'm 100% against the death penalty. onehandle May 2015 #1
+1 daleanime May 2015 #44
k&r uppityperson May 2015 #2
And then there was one less ten commandments seveneyes May 2015 #3
Those are the exact reasons I'm against the death penalty. NuclearDem May 2015 #4
Agree, but life in a supermax prison may be worse JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #5
Why a Supermax? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #9
I have no reason, other than the debates on DU over the last few days. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #10
23 hours a day of solitary confinement for life. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #13
Here's what that "nothing" causes: F4lconF16 May 2015 #39
The American Oubliette... haikugal May 2015 #58
it is torture Voice for Peace May 2015 #59
Close the supermax. End life without parole eligibility. morningfog May 2015 #11
Agree. Thank you. nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #65
The Horror seveneyes May 2015 #15
+1 Jefferson23 May 2015 #6
I am against the death penalty, across the board petronius May 2015 #7
Across the Board seveneyes May 2015 #17
For decades it's been a fact that states without the death penalty have lower murder rates......... George II May 2015 #38
Correlation is not causation. rogerashton May 2015 #8
I'm quite aware of how to interpret a correlation. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #12
Getting up off the floor literally malaise May 2015 #16
What if the murder rate in those states would be higher without the DP? NotoriousRBG May 2015 #19
Why might that be? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #24
If only you had some peer reviewed evidence to back phil89 May 2015 #20
Peer-reviewed evidence? WTF is that? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #32
Makes sense to me, Doc. eom rogerashton May 2015 #66
Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine without a death penalty. SheilaT May 2015 #14
Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine with the USA picking up the defense tab seveneyes May 2015 #18
And how is that relevant to the death penalty? SheilaT May 2015 #21
So Goddamned relevant, it's often overlooked seveneyes May 2015 #22
Gosh. We have the death penalty so as to spare other countries from having it? SheilaT May 2015 #23
I trust we're dealing with a bit of Jackpine Radical May 2015 #25
Yep. Well, maybe more irony than sarcasm. Especially when SheilaT May 2015 #27
I guess the notion is that we're the wholesale death merchants to the world. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #29
Hmmm. I've been known to write science fiction, SheilaT May 2015 #33
Jeez, why not? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #34
I've already written a story in which SheilaT May 2015 #35
I so want to read that. F4lconF16 May 2015 #43
Sounds fascinating. BeanMusical May 2015 #51
Thanks for that. SheilaT May 2015 #57
It's so simple it is often ignored seveneyes May 2015 #26
Thanks for a great post!!!! +1000 nt Logical May 2015 #28
Ritualized Human Sacrifice. Downwinder May 2015 #30
100% against. No exceptions. Fearless May 2015 #31
I think it's good to keep Omnith May 2015 #36
Why? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #37
Society benefits by not having him part of it. Omnith May 2015 #42
How exactly was McVeigh part of society after he was incarcerated? nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #45
He wouldn't be in either case. Omnith May 2015 #47
You are referring me to a fiction book written under commission nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #48
I'm glad you hold life sacred Omnith May 2015 #49
I believe the state should not kill in my name nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #50
Cost to society? Omnith May 2015 #54
Funny, most nations can get along without murdering nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #55
I guess we just see things differently Omnith May 2015 #63
The death benefit is a negative to society Major Nikon May 2015 #67
+1 Well said. BeanMusical May 2015 #52
The death penalty is just the most extreme of our criminal system nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40
I can't recommend this post enough. F4lconF16 May 2015 #46
Excellent contribution to this discussion Nadin. haikugal May 2015 #62
I fully agree. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #69
Grotesque. haikugal May 2015 #72
Add one more reason: criminal charges are more often brought against minorities and the poor jwirr May 2015 #41
Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #53
I am opposed to the death penalty in all cases Blue_In_AK May 2015 #56
I'm in NC and I started out pro-death penalty, Jamastiene May 2015 #60
It really rings true to me. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #76
Am against the death penalty unless akbacchus_BC May 2015 #61
Then it sounds like you are against the death penalty in all cases Major Nikon May 2015 #68
great post, thought provoking, thank you! Voice for Peace May 2015 #64
Thank you so much for that! Jackpine Radical May 2015 #71
For many years I was on the fence about the death penalty davidpdx May 2015 #70
There is one place, and one place only hifiguy May 2015 #73
And that's the one place we in the US do not apply it. Seems the more people you kill, the less sabrina 1 May 2015 #74
Not even there, afaic. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #78
The death penalty is only one very visible facet... Orsino May 2015 #75
K&R! mvd May 2015 #77
Utah is a death penalty state... TeeYiYi May 2015 #79
A funny thing about geometric means-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #80
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