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Yo_Mama

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40. For lower/middle income it is about 1 in 3 - 32%
Fri May 15, 2015, 11:38 PM
May 2015
Hardest hit were lower to middle-income adults. That's someone who earned from $16,200 to $29,199 last year, or a family of three earning from $27,400 to $49,499. Almost one out of three of these adults said they went without needed medical care because the out-of-pocket cost was too high.


And ACA really hasn't helped many of these people:
The estimated average deductible of silver plans in 2014 was between $2,267 and $3,030, the report said.


I don't know quite what I think, but we haven't solved our problems - instead they seem to be getting worse.

At the clinic a lot of people refuse to go for recommended tests because they don't have the money. It used to be that you asked if they had insurance. Now you ask about what it's going to cost them, and document refusal of care in the records because "insurance gap". It's all just a game of russian roulette played with an insurance card. We now have more refusals of care for those insured than for those not insured. We have plenty of people refusing to go to the ER with insurance now.

We have created a system in which people have to pay in, but some are essentially debarred from getting treatment. It's a winner-takes-all type of system, and in the future we will be paying higher medical costs because of it.

And when people know they can't afford to use it, they refuse even the screening tests, because their theory is that there is no point to them.

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as I repeatedly have stated...it doesn't do you any good to have insurance you can't afford to use. antigop May 2015 #1
In a tiered health care system such flaws are features Dragonfli May 2015 #8
+1 daleanime May 2015 #20
+1 historylovr May 2015 #21
Very much on-target. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #23
I pointed out this obvious problem with a tiered system based on income Dragonfli May 2015 #33
Yes, but this is morally appalling Yo_Mama May 2015 #42
I don't disagree /nt Dragonfli May 2015 #43
And this is exactly how the insurance companies want it... CoffeeCat May 2015 #45
self delete--duplicate (nt) CoffeeCat May 2015 #46
Most Americans can't afford a $1,000 emergency expense antigop May 2015 #2
Unable to meet the deductible or the doctor antigop May 2015 #3
Health insurance finance reform is not Health Care reform Autumn May 2015 #4
AIA zipplewrath May 2015 #17
I can't afford to buy my insulin when I hit the gap in prescription coverage two months from now. In_The_Wind May 2015 #5
I'm so sorry, In_The_Wind Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #14
The sad fact is: I pay for Medicare and extra medical insurance. In_The_Wind May 2015 #18
Same here. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #19
so sorry, In_The_Wind. So very sorry. nt antigop May 2015 #15
We're nowhere close to being done yet. It has to shake out somehow that people get the medical care brewens May 2015 #6
Just Plain Evil colsohlibgal May 2015 #7
here is the video antigop May 2015 #9
Have insurance CountAllVotes May 2015 #10
wow, Count, so sorry...I dream of the day when we live in a civilized society. nt antigop May 2015 #11
yeah it truly sucks CountAllVotes May 2015 #13
We went 5 months without a doctor. Hangingon May 2015 #36
Medicare E (E = Everyone) Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #12
Health insurance costs have ballooned for employers and city governments daredtowork May 2015 #16
Because we continue to try profit off of those who did health care..... daleanime May 2015 #22
I'm amazed that it's only 1 in 4. Orrex May 2015 #24
For lower/middle income it is about 1 in 3 - 32% Yo_Mama May 2015 #40
How many of those had decent food which might have prevented the need for "health care"? jtuck004 May 2015 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #26
Well put 1000. n/t fasttense May 2015 #27
+1,000 !!! CountAllVotes May 2015 #29
"Alas, we needed a leader ... and got just another politician." SMC22307 May 2015 #38
+1000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #57
I have insurance - it is far from inexpensive PumpkinAle May 2015 #28
That's me Half-Century Man May 2015 #30
Have you checked any Canadian pharmacies? brer cat May 2015 #47
I can believe this. redstatebluegirl May 2015 #31
I have to have surgery next week Spacemom May 2015 #32
Good luck, and a speedy recovery to you. SMC22307 May 2015 #39
kick. Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #34
K&R MadrasT May 2015 #35
When you look at the details it gets worse Yo_Mama May 2015 #37
Medicaid and all other plans should cover needed dental care (excluding primarily cosmetic). pnwmom May 2015 #41
Yep. We're still paying off 2013 and 2014 bills. progressoid May 2015 #44
Of those who file for bankruptcy for medical bills, most had insurance .... Scuba May 2015 #48
Single payer marym625 May 2015 #49
Am I the only one who ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #50
What will be interesting is when the MIC and Big Pharma and Private Health Insurance all start djean111 May 2015 #51
adults who bought insurance on their own- KittyWampus May 2015 #52
Until there is full transparency of healthcare costs TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #53
Kick historylovr May 2015 #54
I had $6,000 out of pocket last year madville May 2015 #55
Plenty of "other countries", i.e. more advanced societies, sammythecat May 2015 #56
ACA still HUGE improvement over no ACA , but if you want real change,then you have to hit randys1 May 2015 #58
Medicare presents the same problem fadedrose May 2015 #59
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