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Voice for Peace

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59. it is torture

Fri May 15, 2015, 11:41 PM

May 2015

and just like in guantanamo and all the black sites, many
innocent have been tortured because the sadists just feel
like torturing people.

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Thoughts on the Death Penalty [View all] Jackpine Radical May 2015 OP

I'm 100% against the death penalty. onehandle May 2015 #1

+1 daleanime May 2015 #44

k&r uppityperson May 2015 #2

And then there was one less ten commandments seveneyes May 2015 #3

Those are the exact reasons I'm against the death penalty. NuclearDem May 2015 #4

Agree, but life in a supermax prison may be worse JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #5

Why a Supermax? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #9

I have no reason, other than the debates on DU over the last few days. JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #10

23 hours a day of solitary confinement for life. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #13

Here's what that "nothing" causes: F4lconF16 May 2015 #39

The American Oubliette... haikugal May 2015 #58

it is torture Voice for Peace May 2015 #59

Close the supermax. End life without parole eligibility. morningfog May 2015 #11

Agree. Thank you. nt F4lconF16 May 2015 #65

The Horror seveneyes May 2015 #15

+1 Jefferson23 May 2015 #6

I am against the death penalty, across the board petronius May 2015 #7

Across the Board seveneyes May 2015 #17

For decades it's been a fact that states without the death penalty have lower murder rates......... George II May 2015 #38

Correlation is not causation. rogerashton May 2015 #8

I'm quite aware of how to interpret a correlation. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #12

Getting up off the floor literally malaise May 2015 #16

What if the murder rate in those states would be higher without the DP? NotoriousRBG May 2015 #19

Why might that be? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #24

If only you had some peer reviewed evidence to back phil89 May 2015 #20

Peer-reviewed evidence? WTF is that? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #32

Makes sense to me, Doc. eom rogerashton May 2015 #66

Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine without a death penalty. SheilaT May 2015 #14

Almost every other country in the world gets along just fine with the USA picking up the defense tab seveneyes May 2015 #18

And how is that relevant to the death penalty? SheilaT May 2015 #21

So Goddamned relevant, it's often overlooked seveneyes May 2015 #22

Gosh. We have the death penalty so as to spare other countries from having it? SheilaT May 2015 #23

I trust we're dealing with a bit of Jackpine Radical May 2015 #25

Yep. Well, maybe more irony than sarcasm. Especially when SheilaT May 2015 #27

I guess the notion is that we're the wholesale death merchants to the world. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #29

Hmmm. I've been known to write science fiction, SheilaT May 2015 #33

Jeez, why not? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #34

I've already written a story in which SheilaT May 2015 #35

I so want to read that. F4lconF16 May 2015 #43

Sounds fascinating. BeanMusical May 2015 #51

Thanks for that. SheilaT May 2015 #57

It's so simple it is often ignored seveneyes May 2015 #26

Thanks for a great post!!!! +1000 nt Logical May 2015 #28

Ritualized Human Sacrifice. Downwinder May 2015 #30

100% against. No exceptions. Fearless May 2015 #31

I think it's good to keep Omnith May 2015 #36

Why? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #37

Society benefits by not having him part of it. Omnith May 2015 #42

How exactly was McVeigh part of society after he was incarcerated? nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #45

He wouldn't be in either case. Omnith May 2015 #47

You are referring me to a fiction book written under commission nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #48

I'm glad you hold life sacred Omnith May 2015 #49

I believe the state should not kill in my name nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #50

Cost to society? Omnith May 2015 #54

Funny, most nations can get along without murdering nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #55

I guess we just see things differently Omnith May 2015 #63

The death benefit is a negative to society Major Nikon May 2015 #67

+1 Well said. BeanMusical May 2015 #52

The death penalty is just the most extreme of our criminal system nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40

I can't recommend this post enough. F4lconF16 May 2015 #46

Excellent contribution to this discussion Nadin. haikugal May 2015 #62

I fully agree. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #69

Grotesque. haikugal May 2015 #72

Add one more reason: criminal charges are more often brought against minorities and the poor jwirr May 2015 #41

Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #53

I am opposed to the death penalty in all cases Blue_In_AK May 2015 #56

I'm in NC and I started out pro-death penalty, Jamastiene May 2015 #60

It really rings true to me. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #76

Am against the death penalty unless akbacchus_BC May 2015 #61

Then it sounds like you are against the death penalty in all cases Major Nikon May 2015 #68

great post, thought provoking, thank you! Voice for Peace May 2015 #64

Thank you so much for that! Jackpine Radical May 2015 #71

For many years I was on the fence about the death penalty davidpdx May 2015 #70

There is one place, and one place only hifiguy May 2015 #73

And that's the one place we in the US do not apply it. Seems the more people you kill, the less sabrina 1 May 2015 #74

Not even there, afaic. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #78

The death penalty is only one very visible facet... Orsino May 2015 #75

K&R! mvd May 2015 #77

Utah is a death penalty state... TeeYiYi May 2015 #79

A funny thing about geometric means-- Jackpine Radical May 2015 #80