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Festivito

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97. Yes, there is. Being held at gunpoint for example.

Wed May 9, 2012, 10:22 PM

May 2012

And, to a degree, this is a life and death struggle. There are millions of Americans employed in the anti-drug industries, police, DEA, judges, jails, jail suppliers, alcohol, prescription drugs, labs, and add in the CIA. That's just the good-guys. Add the mafia and street dealers. It's millions. (NOTE: This is not a comprehensive list.)

Some of those millions will kill themselves if we legalize drugs right away, even if its to alleviate pain and suffering, even if it extends lives the users.

You accuse me of having no empathy, perhaps it is you who lacks empathy, empathy for the workers trying to do what they consider a necessary job however misguided they may be. You can't even seem to understand what it is to have empathy for these people who disagree with you. You only seem to have empathy for people who are pre-disposed to your way of thinking.

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WTF is up with "Obama's War on Weed" ?? It makes no sense at this point in the game. [View all] 99th_Monkey May 2012 OP

On this PBO can not allow himself to give the opposition a chance to say "See I TOLD You he is a Vincardog May 2012 #1

There are thousands more dispensaries open for buisiness today in legal states.. tridim May 2012 #2

News stories of legitimate dispensaries being hounded out of existence under threat 99th_Monkey May 2012 #3

Right, for breaking state law tridim May 2012 #5

THX!! See, didn't have to wait 5 minutes for this meme to be knocked on face facts alone uponit7771 May 2012 #7

Why not simply let the state's law enforcement handle it the way they want? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #9

In most cases the state agencies do handle it. tridim May 2012 #24

Relatively Rare, Huh? SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #30

Why were those dispensaries closed down? randome May 2012 #32

Why, pray tell, should Obama or DofJ even give a rats ass about MM STATE laws? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #59

Ummmm...Not True SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #4

Post the stories. tridim May 2012 #8

+1! uponit7771 May 2012 #17

-1! RainDog May 2012 #105

here RainDog May 2012 #38

I'm sure it's because he wants to lose the election. randome May 2012 #39

whether he wants to alienate voters or not RainDog May 2012 #41

Bullshit. randome May 2012 #44

then read the articles n/t RainDog May 2012 #45

I posted this earlier tonight: CrispyQ May 2012 #70

Well, it could hurt him in Colorado, which is a toss-up state. Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #120

the 1000 ft from schools is a reasonable rule. uncle ray May 2012 #72

The issue is the push back from the Federal Govt RainDog May 2012 #77

The stories have been posted RainDog May 2012 #64

WOW! Nice work putting that post together with links and all. ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #85

I agree, good, informational post! Thank you. /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #87

And you know this how? randome May 2012 #11

You really are full of questions. Well I have one for you. Do you have anything to add? nm rhett o rick May 2012 #21

Yeah. randome May 2012 #22

I agree with you. nm rhett o rick May 2012 #49

You're Right SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #26

Absent evidence to the contrary... randome May 2012 #28

"I'm Probably Going To Trust Law Enforcement" SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #35

Did you not see the 'absent evidence to the contrary' part of what I said? randome May 2012 #37

What About The Facts From Your Perspective? SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #46

I can't see into sealed documents, that's for sure. randome May 2012 #50

Trusting law enforcement? Where the fuck did that misguided notion come from? DisgustipatedinCA May 2012 #56

just fyi RainDog May 2012 #40

And STILL no one can give me answers about why specific dispensaries... randome May 2012 #42

read the articles n/t RainDog May 2012 #48

That would slow things down. n/t AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #83

You loose all credibility when you use "What else are you going to do, vote for that Romney jerk?" rhett o rick May 2012 #47

Sarcasm SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #57

Dang I hate it when I overlook sarcasm. The truth is I have a huge chip on my rhett o rick May 2012 #67

Snort. Remind me to never go lonestarnot May 2012 #68

Do you have a source for that information? nm rhett o rick May 2012 #18

If state laws are broken then the state can handle it TheKentuckian May 2012 #54

local cops wouldn't handle a raid on a gun dealer alone, they'd call in the ATF. uncle ray May 2012 #73

Sounds like FUDr fodder at this point, they take a lot out of perspective to bash... uponit7771 May 2012 #6

Some Of Us Had "High" Hopes For Obama SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #10

Some of us had high post for objective criticsm of Obama's actions vs half truths, out of perspectiv uponit7771 May 2012 #15

More like DEvolving if you ask me. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #25

His "promises" were nothing but brilliant political statements SomethingFishy May 2012 #60

Hint: State Law = State law enforcement, not Federal DoJ shock troopers ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #12

Thx, I didn't even bother to read the post...sounds so FUDr-ish uponit7771 May 2012 #16

when the business is a commodity that is Federally regulated, the Feds will be involved. uncle ray May 2012 #74

... at their discretion <-- you must admit is true. ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #75

He wants all the weed for himself and Michelle :) Swede Atlanta May 2012 #13

It's Called Pharmaceutical Campaign Money SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #20

And the WAR on pot moves to Colorado Bennyboy May 2012 #14

WOW! So add that to my list in the OP, as to Obama being "covered" 99th_Monkey May 2012 #23

The 1000 foot rule is the law. tridim May 2012 #27

For now. Bennyboy May 2012 #71

It is NOT Colorado law. It's the feds using federal law... Comrade Grumpy May 2012 #121

State Law Being Broken? SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #19

A lawyer, you aren't. boppers May 2012 #80

Oaksterdam University did not distribute marijuana. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #84

I think even the poster knows that, but all they have is this pale red herring to throw out Dragonfli May 2012 #86

The schools founder, who was selling, was the obvious target. boppers May 2012 #89

Then obviously, the museum and not the founder was dispensing the mj AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #90

Hold on a sec while I put my foil hat on.... Money MattBaggins May 2012 #29

What? jp11 May 2012 #31

You may want to make an appt. with your optometrist 99th_Monkey May 2012 #88

It shows the current date. jp11 May 2012 #91

Not sure what you mean, but whatever. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #92

I didn't say that statement was out dated jp11 May 2012 #93

You've got me completely stumped 99th_Monkey May 2012 #108

The President On Jimmy Fallon SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #33

Dr. Lester Grinspoon RainDog May 2012 #51

His war makes perfect sense when you understand who benefits and who bribes (I mean contributes) /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #34

Do You Have Any Proof Of That? SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #36

You found me out, I am just "a hater" and should admit they never lie. Dragonfli May 2012 #55

K & R !!! WillyT May 2012 #43

I AGREE! STATES have gone BANKRUPT locking people up for drugs, w/NO $ now for state supported supraTruth May 2012 #52

+1000 nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #63

What the hell's the matter with youse? jerseyjack May 2012 #53

If he doesn't care about the issue now, he cerainly won't care about it after the election. limpyhobbler May 2012 #66

I've Come To Realize... SoCalMusicLover May 2012 #58

COL and WA state control their own fates musiclawyer May 2012 #61

So far I think Oregon has been spared. 99th_Monkey May 2012 #62

don't hold your breath shanti May 2012 #95

How do you explain the disconnect? 99th_Monkey May 2012 #106

The ruling was from 2007 in regard to law enforcement in states RainDog May 2012 #119

Thanks for pointing out that this is about a 2007 decision 99th_Monkey May 2012 #122

Yes. States are going to pass these laws RainDog May 2012 #65

I am worried it won't pass here in WA marlakay May 2012 #69

Why is it Obama's? treestar May 2012 #76

When they were in office - it was their problem RainDog May 2012 #109

Just blaming the current President for any societal thing is treestar May 2012 #113

good for you RainDog May 2012 #114

When did I say stop talking about it? I did not. treestar May 2012 #115

You really aren't someone to advise people about this issue RainDog May 2012 #118

You are convincing no one treestar May 2012 #123

thanks for the advice RainDog May 2012 #124

Must...Win...Election... JFN1 May 2012 #78

Hell, something like 70% of voters favor Medical Marijuana 99th_Monkey May 2012 #107

It's an issue that could get people off their couches and politically involved. Festivito May 2012 #79

It is more an issue of "some guy" actively attacking State Legal medication for sick ppl. Dragonfli May 2012 #81

OP said it made no sense. I offered how it might make some sense. Festivito May 2012 #94

There is no possible reason (objectively) to deny a sick person medical assistance and Dragonfli May 2012 #96

Yes, there is. Being held at gunpoint for example. Festivito May 2012 #97

I care far more for the sick than those mythical people that are harmed by sick people Dragonfli May 2012 #98

You think police, DEA agents, judges, et. al. are .... mythical? Yikes! No, they exist. Festivito May 2012 #102

I speak my mind and am seldom intimidated, you can read my hidden posts in context if you wish to Dragonfli May 2012 #104

This is a morally corrupt argument RainDog May 2012 #110

You are claiming that this policy is under duress? the legal defense for doing something at gunpoint Dragonfli May 2012 #99

LOL. Yes--where is your compassion for the DEA agents, corporate owners of for-profit prisons, and Romulox May 2012 #116

Thank you for that last addition. I feel that sad story, my condolence. Festivito May 2012 #101

We need to at least agree that states that are taking a sane, regulated approach to Medical Dragonfli May 2012 #103

Prohibition did not provoke a civil war RainDog May 2012 #112

Now now, lets not rock the boat. progressoid May 2012 #82

Now that he's come out in favor marriage equality, it's time to get real on pot RZM May 2012 #100

+1000 why not make it a twofer? ~nt 99th_Monkey May 2012 #111

Agreed. Time for more evolution. nt Romulox May 2012 #117