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Jackpine Radical

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52. He bought enough Senators to get it through.

Reply to Orsino (Reply #50)

Sat May 16, 2015, 09:30 AM

May 2015

There are still shoals ahead in the House.

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After Attacking Warren, Obama Having Trouble Selling TPP to Fellow Dems [View all] Jackpine Radical May 2015 OP

Notice it is the Democratic party fighting for what is right. Yes some are on the wrong NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #1

Republicans are fighting for Obama on this. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #2

Correction Obama is fighting for the Republican's owners on this. Vincardog May 2015 #3

So you completely missed the point, I see NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #4

Let me stick my nose in here. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #35

But why can't he be a little upfront for these motives? erronis May 2015 #47

I'm in no position to answer such a question. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #48

THIS. Volaris May 2015 #51

Which is more than a little ironic since as recently as last year cadaverdog May 2015 #33

"...which they were strictly against." Volaris May 2015 #49

That's a clue. orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #76

All that his being so adamant tells me is that he is a neoliberal true believer Dragonfli May 2015 #5

So you tell me, if we refuse to put up tariffs, and we do, if we refuse to invest here NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #7

This deal will not change those factors but rather further enable them Dragonfli May 2015 #10

So you acknowledge that without this deal, or lets assume there is no deal, we will lose NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #11

You know the answer and the lack of leadership to pursue what will work as you have posted it Dragonfli May 2015 #13

But wait, you didnt even agree with me about tariffs? YOu said nothing as to solutions, did you. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #16

Yes, I am not an expert in the field, but those tactics have worked before Dragonfli May 2015 #19

I would like to see a system of tariffs based on the labor conditions in the exporting countries. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #24

+ 1 cali May 2015 #32

+2 A Simple Game May 2015 #69

Reality is that we're gave away the cows with NAFTA - TBF May 2015 #37

I expect he thinks this is the best deal he can get BainsBane May 2015 #41

"It's unfortunate that people weren't paying attention as it was happening." Dragonfli May 2015 #44

Did I not just say TPP was shit? BainsBane May 2015 #45

"Very little is manufactured in the US" Depaysement May 2015 #67

seriously? BainsBane May 2015 #78

Manufacturing has increased since the President was elected Depaysement May 2015 #79

Yes, I know it has increased since Obama took office BainsBane May 2015 #80

It does not qualify as "very little" Depaysement May 2015 #81

I don't understand your point. cui bono May 2015 #17

NO, I am saying the trade deal is bad, probably will result in more jobs here, BAD paying NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #29

So we should just give in and do what the owners want? TBF May 2015 #38

LOL oh god, been fighting longer than most here, donating to Bernie, have NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #39

Your reponse was very defeatest TBF May 2015 #40

Had you read the article, you would have learned that it is the JDPriestly May 2015 #22

that is what I said...that the only people fighting for US are the Dems, not all the Dems but Dems NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #27

Sorry. I was surprised at what I thought you wrote. JDPriestly May 2015 #30

And I think it is possible TPP will provide jobs for AMericans, bad paying and subject NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #31

We need a movement. Yes. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #43

This... KoKo May 2015 #54

i'm sure they are not your favourites Angel Martin May 2015 #28

If Obama was doing what he thought was right for the American... raindaddy May 2015 #55

Arent trade deals always treated this way? That is a yes or no and my asking the NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #58

I think we need to ask the question WHY is it being treated this way? raindaddy May 2015 #65

I keep wondering if the PTB .. ananda May 2015 #71

I think he'll be threatened with retiring a very rich man ...... raindaddy May 2015 #72

Well, I guess we know where you stand Android3.14 May 2015 #59

Obama has made zero attempt to explain why this is a good thing Android3.14 May 2015 #61

Dont be ridiculous, I said NO to those jobs, or CANT you READ! NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #62

It's not my reading; it's your writing Android3.14 May 2015 #63

To quote Henry Rollins: Maedhros May 2015 #6

I wonder why he thought acting like a Republican would rally more Dem votes Doctor_J May 2015 #8

Oh you libruls! Wrong again gratuitous May 2015 #9

Was he having trouble selling TPP before he 'attacked' Warren? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #12

if you punish and attack people no matter what they do, they'll just stop responding MisterP May 2015 #14

Thanks for this post. riqster May 2015 #15

Yeah, it was strangely ham-handed of him. Weird even... Left coast liberal May 2015 #18

Desperation on his part? PADemD May 2015 #21

Even if Obama wins this one, he really has lost a lot... EndElectoral May 2015 #20

He is worried about finding a job when he leaves office. JDPriestly May 2015 #23

Well as I've said many times we need to keep fighting TBF May 2015 #42

You state precisely my thoughts when it comes to the argument JDPriestly May 2015 #46

Interesting point... KoKo May 2015 #56

If Hillary can get $300,000+ for fawning speeches kissing the asses of Wall Street, he probably whereisjustice May 2015 #64

K & R Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #25

Thanks. It was fun to make. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #26

K&R...Thanks for posting red dog 1 May 2015 #34

Somehow, I knew that was a bad strategy. Jack Rabbit May 2015 #36

How? He's already sold it to them, and they are going to hand him the keys to the economy. n/t Orsino May 2015 #50

He bought enough Senators to get it through. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #52

Even if the House somehow thwarted TPA, he'll still get his TPP eventually. n/t Orsino May 2015 #53

Let's hope , work and pray for him to fail, just like republicans wanted him to orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #77

bought? KoKo May 2015 #57

Maybe waterboarding. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #60

Bought? You mean bribe? Cali_Democrat May 2015 #73

Tsk Cali, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #74

well said nt grasswire May 2015 #75

The same old donkey & carrot LiberalLovinLug May 2015 #66

Obama clearly hates US workers. He says it is because our standard test scores aren't as good, but whereisjustice May 2015 #68

Isn't it interesting that hifiguy May 2015 #70