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fadedrose

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21. After having watched Orin Hatch at the TPA meeting
Sat May 16, 2015, 09:47 AM
May 2015

I was so amazed at the man's composure, courtesy, and willingness to listen.

With every amendment proposed by everyone except Widen, he accepted everything. I thought, boy are they lucky to have this "gentleman" as the chair of this group, and not a butthole like Cruz or some of the others.

But then, when put to a voice vote, every damn one of the Republicans said, no, no, no, no, and even Hatch said no, no, no, no.

That's when I realized that all this rebellious complaining was for the sake of the Dems' constituents, and Hatch knew damned well what they were doing and why, and he played along beautifully. Too beautifully if you ask me. He had not the least bit of confrontation in him, and treated them like spoiled children who he'd rather let them vent till they were satisfied with themselves and their performances.... Hatch knew it was going to pass and so did they. The next day, it was said that the Dems had caved, and Wednesday, the vote went thru.

The Dems who could afford to vote "yes" were mainly from the western coast of the US where they deal mainly with Asian ports, and the cities there would prosper just from shipping if nothing else. The central and eastern Senators were able to vote "No" and did so for their duped supporters, mainly the unions, and I think that if the deal goes thru, the unions' time and their salaries are history....but something will be done to make it look like it's not so.

We been hoodwinked.

And to your point, yes, they could have done the whole damned thing at home with a conference call/video arrangement.

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It's no use [View all] fadedrose May 2015 OP
You are absolutely correct. 99Forever May 2015 #1
I'm not so sure. Yes, the odds and history favor passage cali May 2015 #2
TPA hasn't passed yet, just the vote to open debate on it. But in the end, its just a matter of RiverLover May 2015 #3
There is only one political party in the US at the national level. The Corporate Party. hobbit709 May 2015 #4
I'm afraid you're right. n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #5
Maybe what's needed is.... Hotler May 2015 #6
There were millions of us "in the streets" protesting the Iraq debacle. 99Forever May 2015 #7
Prayer: a way to sit on your ass and still feel like you helped. Jester Messiah May 2015 #8
They, the creators of this totalitarian economic nightmare, want you to give up faderose, DON'T! Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #10
THEY DO NOT WORK FOR US ! L0oniX May 2015 #11
Or you could be wrong. randome May 2015 #12
Relax. Obama is right. Again. And mankind made the world a mess and mankind can clean it up. Fred Sanders May 2015 #13
Why would you tell your son to hire a slave wage worker from Vietnam to clean his room? whereisjustice May 2015 #15
Sure. Why not, if the wage is paid in dollars, perhaps? Or maybe we leave the Vietnamese alone to keep Fred Sanders May 2015 #16
Democratic Party loves killing US jobs as much as the Republican Party, that much is clear. whereisjustice May 2015 #14
True, then it will be pinned on the Democrats.... daleanime May 2015 #17
There are no easy solutions to this lack of accountability. A Simple Game May 2015 #18
After having watched Orin Hatch at the TPA meeting fadedrose May 2015 #21
A lot of people have done a lot of hard work to get us here. Many are proud of it. raouldukelives May 2015 #19
Kabuki theater. Scuba May 2015 #20
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