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KingCharlemagne

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74. I'm no expert on Paine, but I do seem to recall he was one of the
Sat May 16, 2015, 10:21 AM
May 2015

few "revolutionists" who was an outright abolitionist, when abolitionism was the fringiest of fringe ideas, kind of like women's 'right to vote' ca. 1815. So no surprise if two of Paine's mourners were African American freedmen.

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MSM,, Misanthrope Sycophant Monsters orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #1
Top Comment FlatBaroque May 2015 #62
In the end, history will show that he got this one (mostly) right, as usual. leveymg May 2015 #2
The Hersh story is bogus and fell apart on examination Gothmog May 2015 #3
did it now? Fast Walker 52 May 2015 #6
likely didn't read the article Jesus Malverde May 2015 #11
Both of his sources are weak to put it mildly.... paleotn May 2015 #23
The Vox story is well done Gothmog May 2015 #83
Here you go - and even got a couple of them for you ... 66 dmhlt May 2015 #24
ok, thanks Fast Walker 52 May 2015 #101
Another Reporter has come forward to BACK UP his story. This is how it always happens with sabrina 1 May 2015 #30
Link?...nt SidDithers May 2015 #33
Ny times wrote the article Jesus Malverde May 2015 #35
Raelynn Hillhouse, wrote this story back in 2011. She says Hersh's story 'is spot on' though she sabrina 1 May 2015 #59
Some people are google impaired Jesus Malverde May 2015 #60
Anyone who seriously wants to know the facts, finds them themselves, rather than demanding sabrina 1 May 2015 #81
Heya Jesus Malverde May 2015 #37
Really? Android3.14 May 2015 #72
Really Gothmog May 2015 #82
Opinion piece by someone defending their own story Android3.14 May 2015 #92
Bergen's observation about bin Laden's relationship to Saudi Arabia is an important key. OilemFirchen May 2015 #94
That's because it's bogus. trumad May 2015 #4
. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #5
Why haven't we heard from redstateblues May 2015 #20
WTF is a paidtani Jesus Malverde May 2015 #36
I think it's a Thai noodle dish. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #87
I'll take one with extra hot sauce?...nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #97
That's because stonecutter357 May 2015 #7
Thanks for the bump...nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #9
Did we get Bin Laden? Yes! That's what the yeoman6987 May 2015 #8
Have any evidence of who was killed or if anyone was killed? Geronimoe May 2015 #10
Not only that Jesus Malverde May 2015 #13
Sure haven't seen any bin Laden videos lately, and AQ web sites themselves acknowledged still_one May 2015 #32
Neo-DU is all about normalizing tin foil hats tridim May 2015 #77
Or to paraphrase it. zeemike May 2015 #12
You don't think the Republicabs are behind this? yeoman6987 May 2015 #14
That is just the rational for the end justifying the means. zeemike May 2015 #18
True Geronimoe May 2015 #19
Why on earth would you assume Republicans are behind this? Marr May 2015 #21
Can't imagine how this story would hurt Bernie. nt freedom fighter jh May 2015 #26
+ 1000 !!! It's not a football game . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #16
Yes and the rest is starting to sound like 911 trutherism treestar May 2015 #17
Seems to me the official 911 story is impossible and therefore must be false. freedom fighter jh May 2015 #28
Got to wonder about anyone who parrots a bush narrative...nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #45
Now you've gone completely nuts treestar May 2015 #86
Lulz Jesus Malverde May 2015 #96
Yes, you do. nt freedom fighter jh May 2015 #89
out there conspiracy theories treestar May 2015 #85
You're the one talking conspiracy, not me. freedom fighter jh May 2015 #91
K - N - R. Here's what we do know by the administration's own account: it KingCharlemagne May 2015 #15
"There's no such thing as 'law' when it's the War on Terror. " SusanCalvin May 2015 #55
Thomas Paine had amazing powers of KingCharlemagne May 2015 #66
He did. SusanCalvin May 2015 #68
I'm no expert on Paine, but I do seem to recall he was one of the KingCharlemagne May 2015 #74
He didn't appear to have much of a filter SusanCalvin May 2015 #76
JM, I haven't been following this story closely at all cali May 2015 #22
I wasn't too interested either SusanCalvin May 2015 #49
Jessica Lynch and Pat Tillman bvar22 May 2015 #84
Excellent two examples. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #98
If OBL was still alive it would be disgraceful BeyondGeography May 2015 #25
Multiple AQ sources came out saying he was killed. The only ones that don't are those that believe still_one May 2015 #34
The story makes all the sense in the world. Fuddnik May 2015 #27
Actually the Pakistani's were embaresesed by the raid, not... PosterChild May 2015 #70
That's because Hersh's story is complete bullshit tinfoil hat nuttery. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #29
I guess we'll add tin foil nuttery to the list.. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #31
Correct me if I am wrong iandhr May 2015 #38
His claim is that there was no shootout Jesus Malverde May 2015 #39
Not his claim but the claim of a retired officer who was not privy to what occurred. randome May 2015 #40
Their logic runs in the opposite direction ... Obama IS a liar ... therefore ... JoePhilly May 2015 #47
That sounds about right. randome May 2015 #53
It's disgraceful people cling to a BS story FLPanhandle May 2015 #41
We can add charlatan to the list Jesus Malverde May 2015 #42
Please do, it's well earned. FLPanhandle May 2015 #43
Kinda a old English term but I'll take it in the smear Jesus Malverde May 2015 #44
Then you don't understand the word Smear FLPanhandle May 2015 #51
isn't that what they say about Glenn Greenwald? grasswire May 2015 #95
Why the hell would anyone believe Pakistani ex-intel? JaneyVee May 2015 #46
Why the hell would anyone believe two US Seals Jesus Malverde May 2015 #48
Hersh said the body was riddled with bullets... JaneyVee May 2015 #67
Can't get past this: OilemFirchen May 2015 #50
Good point Jesus Malverde May 2015 #54
Let's just call it due diligence, shall we? OilemFirchen May 2015 #80
What more do you need? It's a known fact that the Obama administration misinformed the public DesMoinesDem May 2015 #65
Like I've been saying all week Blue_Tires May 2015 #52
. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #56
Oh God please tell me you want to try and defend that bullshit Blue_Tires May 2015 #61
Emoprogs and brogressives Jesus Malverde May 2015 #99
Seems more than possible, yet…. zentrum May 2015 #57
Good points..nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #58
Jesus, Jesus fadedrose May 2015 #63
Bin Laden was extra-judicially executed. That's the America I know KingCharlemagne May 2015 #71
Just like the media was unfair to Judy Miller. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #64
I think the media should also follow up on stories in the National Enquirer mythology May 2015 #69
Most of the responses on this thread heaven05 May 2015 #73
Well PART of it lines up with facts. DirkGently May 2015 #75
Hersh disgraced himself, he did not check his sources well enough, but then he would not have Thinkingabout May 2015 #78
If anything, the media gave his nonsense far too much airtime. Hersh is in truther/birther territory now tritsofme May 2015 #79
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #93
VIDEO: Reporter Seymour Hersh Discusses His Controversial Exposé on Killing of Osama bin Laden nationalize the fed May 2015 #88
This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague May 2015 #90
You go on to say truth doesn't matter as long as he's dead and then say truth hurts.. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #100
No, I think both Hersh's "story" is bogus, but also people who think there "must be more" to the OBL Warren DeMontague May 2015 #102
The whole Hersh outrage reminds me a lot of the vitriol poured on Gary Webb Jesus Malverde May 2015 #103
It's not the first dubious assertion to come from S. Hersh in the past 10 years. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #104
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