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cali

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Sat May 16, 2015, 12:44 PM May 2015

Clinton Wants to Help Families at the Bottom; Will She Change Her Mind on Welfare Reform? [View all]

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But if she wants to be the candidate who champions the needs of vulnerable Americans, of those at the bottom of the economy instead of the top, of people of color and mothers and children, then she's going to have to wrestle with another legacy of her husband's that, at least at one time, had her support: welfare reform.

In 1996, President Clinton signed a bill that he said would "end welfare as we know it." And it did just that. It took the Aid to Families with Dependent Children program—which, at the time, was a cost-sharing program between the federal government and states to dispense cash benefits to poor mothers—and turned it into what we have today, the Temporary Assistance for Needy Families block grant. Ostensibly, its purpose was the same, but its block-grant structure meant that the federal government would no longer share a proportionate burden of the costs. Instead, TANF today hands a given sum to the states no matter what demand might be and issues them loose guidelines on how to administer the country's only cash-benefit program.

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The federal government hasn't increased the amount of money it gives to states since 1996, so that money has been eroded by 28 percent, thanks to inflation. Meanwhile, the few guidelines that states have to follow do little to incentivize them to help more poor people. Quite the opposite: They have every reason to try to reduce their rolls and free up more funds, which they often move around to cover things other than cash benefits. Sometimes that extra money goes to related programs like childcare and job training, but states often just use the money to plug budget holes. That means that the share of eligible families who actually get help through TANF keeps steadily falling, to the point where just 26 percent of poor families with children are enrolled, compared to 72 percent before reform went into effect.

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Hillary Clinton supported her husband's push for welfare reform, which may not be surprising, given how often she has stood by her man. But she also voiced support for it during her 2008 campaign, expressing no misgivings about how it turned out and telling The New York Times that she thought it was necessary and enormously successful.

That doesn't mean she won't shift her stance on the issue as she has on criminal justice reform and a pathway to citizenship for undocumented immigrants. The campaign didn't respond to a request for comment on whether she still supports it. But she needs to do some hard thinking about where she stands. In her first speech after she announced her campaign, she talked about her mother's experience growing up in poverty as a child. "No one deserves to grow up like that," she told the audience, saying this belief is part of her "core values." It's reflected in some of the stories in her launch video: a single mother moving to give her daughter a better education, a black couple preparing for their first baby, a young boy getting ready for a school play. Women, and particularly women of color, are more likely than men to live in poverty, and single mothers are particularly in need of support. These are the very people Clinton wants to vote for her.

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http://www.truth-out.org/opinion/item/30761-clinton-wants-to-help-families-at-the-bottom-will-she-change-her-mind-about-welfare-reform

And many Clinton supporters frequently express outrage about those who just don't trust her evolution on issues.
What concrete evidence is there that she actually has changed her positions and isn't just pivoting left in the primary?

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Please list the exact changes you want to see. nt DURHAM D May 2015 #1
Why? I'm discussing damaging legislation that HRC supported, and cali May 2015 #2
Not a gotcha game - just a question addressed to you. DURHAM D May 2015 #6
The effects of that "reform" are not tripe. They were very real. I was a single mother with three jwirr May 2015 #29
In no way did I suggest that welfare reform was tripe. nt DURHAM D May 2015 #39
That is what I heard you saying in post #6. jwirr May 2015 #47
Nope. nt DURHAM D May 2015 #53
Since Cali's OP is about welfare reform Oilwellian May 2015 #56
See post #6 and yes you did. Exilednight May 2015 #60
So clearly you would like the law changed... Cali_Democrat May 2015 #8
refer to the post downthread. that poster expressed quite well cali May 2015 #12
Another day.. another BS Clinton attack Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #3
valid discussion of issues and candidates. cali May 2015 #5
Stop Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #23
Blind obedience is not a progressive quality. Scuba May 2015 #57
Right back atcha Evergreen Emerald May 2015 #61
Training those for jobs who are down on their luck is helping. Thinkingabout May 2015 #4
yeah, I see you addressed the facts in the article. NOT. cali May 2015 #9
You are talking about welfare reform. Two years of job training and assistance Thinkingabout May 2015 #13
Jaysus. it's hopeless. bye bye. You just don't have enough cali May 2015 #17
Maybe you should research before accusing someone of not having Thinkingabout May 2015 #26
Apparently you don't have enough knowledge of Hillary's legislative record KittyWampus May 2015 #27
The post spoke about BC in 1996, this is what I was posting in response. Thinkingabout May 2015 #38
We had access to job training before the "reform". What the "reform" did not address was those jwirr May 2015 #35
Welfare reform will not work for everyone especially the disabled. Thinkingabout May 2015 #40
I got my education BEFORE the reform. And the problem with it was that it did not address those jwirr May 2015 #49
I am sorry for your difficulties. I know and understand not everyone is Thinkingabout May 2015 #54
I totally agree with you on this. Training programs are very valuable. My own education was not jwirr May 2015 #55
I'd like to see daredtowork May 2015 #7
Thank you. That is exactly what should happen now. jwirr May 2015 #37
/\_/\_This right here_/\_/\ Scuba May 2015 #59
I imagine she'll do as she has in the past, tweet something that sounds like she cares... NYC_SKP May 2015 #10
Here is an example BainsBane May 2015 #11
I knew you'd leap at that. I almost left it off because of that. cali May 2015 #15
I think she will change her position BainsBane May 2015 #28
Oh, she'll change her stated position all right. Empty rhetoric is her forte. Scuba May 2015 #58
That's incredibly sexist language DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #18
That's why it's used BainsBane May 2015 #34
When Goldman tells her what to think, hifiguy May 2015 #14
Hillary Clinton opposed welfare reform DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16
so she defended it and praised it in 2008 because of... cali May 2015 #19
Sexist bullshit. Her HUSBAND passed legislation. I don't like Hillary but this shows how KittyWampus May 2015 #20
Sorry, no. fail. Sexism? what crap. cali May 2015 #22
Totally sexist. SHE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. She has a record as Senator- KittyWampus May 2015 #25
FLAT OUT FALSE cali May 2015 #44
Mea Culpa. She supported the same position as Barack Obama DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #21
Wonder what he meant by that? jwirr May 2015 #42
Maybe because it perpetuates negative stereotypes of certain groups being dependent and lazy ... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #46
Okay that sounds reasonable. Thanks. jwirr May 2015 #50
You can find her positions on welfare reform KMOD May 2015 #24
Yes, Hillary has been a long time advocate for children, she has also advocated for women and their Thinkingabout May 2015 #33
How many people you know part of an administration are going to voice an opposite view point in still_one May 2015 #30
Good post Thinkingabout May 2015 #36
Eleanor went against Franklin's policy all the tine upaloopa May 2015 #43
Point is not many still_one May 2015 #45
It would have been hard for HRC to resign as First Lady./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #48
The media would have loved it still_one May 2015 #52
Maybe she can fly them to Malaysia to work TBF May 2015 #31
K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #32
Hillary is not Bill Clinton nt upaloopa May 2015 #41
Has she bought a newer and more efficient waffle iron? Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #51
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