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135. Is there also a political philosophy commonly known

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Sat May 16, 2015, 01:27 PM

May 2015

as Third Way? If yes, does the organization embrace this philosophy?

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Third Way [View all] BainsBane May 2015 OP

Third Wayer and DLCer are just general insults that MineralMan May 2015 #1

Yes, it was the down in the argument reflex BainsBane May 2015 #2

A lot of discussions aren't really discussions. MineralMan May 2015 #4

Still quite don't understand that term Iliyah May 2015 #42

http://thirdway.org/ SMC22307 May 2015 #144

Yes, you mean that big corporations are our lords that take priority over everyone else AZ Progressive May 2015 #82

This message was self-deleted by its author AZ Progressive May 2015 #84

Real Dems? HaHaa. Dems are a big group of anyone but Repubs misterhighwasted May 2015 #97

Democrats that don't ascribe to Republican economic policies AgingAmerican May 2015 #130

Who are and not real dems? hrmjustin May 2015 #102

I got called a third way dem the other day... Agschmid May 2015 #195

Maybe I ought to drink more in order to buy that argument. I could stop but. Katashi_itto May 2015 #146

the problem is DonCoquixote May 2015 #178

I don't think they reject those principles treestar May 2015 #180

this is a fun thread hfojvt May 2015 #192

Yup. Agschmid May 2015 #193

Yeah, sure. 99Forever May 2015 #3

Who are you representatives? BainsBane May 2015 #6

A very excellent question to ask. MineralMan May 2015 #64

Yep, Betty is a good one BainsBane May 2015 #74

We have Betty, Keith and Al because we worked to elect them. MineralMan May 2015 #92

We absolutely work for it BainsBane May 2015 #111

Don't strain yourself patting yourself on the back. bvar22 May 2015 #170

Actually, I live in only one of those cities. MineralMan May 2015 #172

I live in only one of those cities bvar22 May 2015 #203

I didn't. MineralMan May 2015 #207

Mineral Man, Post #92 this thread bvar22 May 2015 #225

We, because BainsBane lives in Ellison's district. MineralMan May 2015 #236

the point was being in Birmingham would be so frustrating treestar May 2015 #183

Do you live in Birmingham? bvar22 May 2015 #204

If so, it's odd you have so little understanding treestar May 2015 #221

It is not odd at all that you have so little understanding of National Politics, Party Politics, bvar22 May 2015 #226

It is a ridiculous question because it neither validates nor invalidates the individuals perspective TheKentuckian May 2015 #119

:-))__%% kentuck May 2015 #148

He tells them to get off his lawn. 99Forever May 2015 #218

I'm not sure why you think that's so important cali May 2015 #113

Yep, you have declared that before BainsBane May 2015 #118

No. I don't go around flinging that label. cali May 2015 #206

I LIKE SANDERS! kentuck May 2015 #151

Asinine "point" your geography is not transferable to your personal liberal "cred" TheKentuckian May 2015 #117

Well said. kentuck May 2015 #152

My House rep is Lois Capps (D), gods bless her. She is a quiet, absolutely solid Dem... Hekate May 2015 #209

Yep LittleBlue May 2015 #121

The other point is that the average person who yell's "Third Way" has no idea what they stand for brooklynite May 2015 #5

I have received pm's from friends here stating they could no longer be DU friends with me, misterhighwasted May 2015 #8

Clearly they weren't friends in the first place BainsBane May 2015 #11

Truth. misterhighwasted May 2015 #15

Well said Iliyah May 2015 #46

This. Agschmid May 2015 #246

HRC - Is In Fact - A DLC Third Waver - She Represents Wall Street And The 1% As Well cantbeserious May 2015 #202

Gd fkng gd. Re-read the Op. You are the epitome of it's point. misterhighwasted May 2015 #213

Hmmm - Can't Challenge The Facts - So Attack The Poster cantbeserious May 2015 #214

What facts? Re-read the OP. Your post is the point of the OP misterhighwasted May 2015 #216

The OP has no logical point. If someone from their district disagrees with them then what? TheKentuckian May 2015 #239

It's neat how you read the plebes' minds so easily. /nt Marr May 2015 #48

Feel free to prove me wrong... brooklynite May 2015 #50

Shall I show you the sky is blue, too? Marr May 2015 #53

Perhaps you didn't read the OP... brooklynite May 2015 #79

Really...? How about the TPA, TPP... Marr May 2015 #100

It's never that specific treestar May 2015 #184

Really. Marr May 2015 #187

Entitlement reform. They to want to privatize SS. Lower taxes on Corporations octoberlib May 2015 #149

I don't see that on that site treestar May 2015 #185

It's there. octoberlib May 2015 #194

Sure, cuz you say so AgingAmerican May 2015 #96

Someone called Al Franken and Keith Ellison Third Wayers? mcar May 2015 #7

That's exactly what I was thinking marym625 May 2015 #220

I doubt if that happened MannyGoldstein May 2015 #227

It's a pretty common internet trope. It comes from people frustrated sufrommich May 2015 #9

The majority of the country is not moderate. Exilednight May 2015 #78

Most of your points are basic democratic platform stuff,right? sufrommich May 2015 #81

If they are basic, why so many Democrats try Exilednight May 2015 #88

Moderates do not support gay rights in any way, shape, or form. Jamastiene May 2015 #177

All of that is moderate treestar May 2015 #196

I'm not here to debate semantics. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #200

+1 treestar May 2015 #188

Putting corporate profits before people is what people associate with the Third Way. Maedhros May 2015 #231

If you're not trying to cut Social Security, privatize education or promote TPP, stop worrying. Orsino May 2015 #10

I'm not worried BainsBane May 2015 #13

The Third Way boogeyman is out there and he turns pure progressive souls into hrmjustin May 2015 #12

Its like an old SyFi movie I watched. Alien blobs attached themselves misterhighwasted May 2015 #18

. hrmjustin May 2015 #75

Hahaa. omg "B E L I E V E" !! misterhighwasted May 2015 #91

DU's high priests of liberalism will not appreciate your candor. JoePhilly May 2015 #14

They never do BainsBane May 2015 #36

One of those high priests is on the thread LordGlenconner May 2015 #40

How does statements like this help debate? Exilednight May 2015 #201

What debate? LordGlenconner May 2015 #247

I've never used it as an insult against a DU member, or against a politician. But there is history. NYC_SKP May 2015 #16

Oh, this talking point again: "YOU CALLED ME A DOG!!!!111!11!" woo me with science May 2015 #17

Yup. 99Forever May 2015 #20

Excellent post you just made. Just look at all those attempts at rebranding. woo me with science May 2015 #24

What does that have to do with insulting ordinary voters? BainsBane May 2015 #29

The rooster crowed and the sun came up. kentuck May 2015 #35

Also worth noting is... 99Forever May 2015 #43

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast May 2015 #103

How is it the truth? BainsBane May 2015 #26

Where is the popcorn, wanna hear the answer to your question. randys1 May 2015 #28

What do you wanna bet BainsBane May 2015 #31

This never occurred to me, I do know we have a lot of loud mouths who do little else randys1 May 2015 #37

A lot of them are from red states BainsBane May 2015 #38

You're telling each other comforting bullshit. Marr May 2015 #61

Some of us are leftists BainsBane May 2015 #77

God, what a load of bullshit. Marr May 2015 #106

I don't always mention when i volunteer for my local candidates but I do. hrmjustin May 2015 #134

Really? Do you think it's over the top when the other person constantly suggests Marr May 2015 #140

I don't think the op is suggesting the left doesn't help. hrmjustin May 2015 #141

I canvass every election BainsBane May 2015 #136

Uh-huh. Marr May 2015 #142

It's amazing how you imagine you know more about me and others here BainsBane May 2015 #208

Liberalism is the mildest form of leftism AgingAmerican May 2015 #126

Midlest form of leftism BainsBane May 2015 #137

We live in the US AgingAmerican May 2015 #138

please read my edits BainsBane May 2015 #139

What I know about your life? AgingAmerican May 2015 #155

Maybe you should actually read the post you call nonsense BainsBane May 2015 #156

That's the "burn it down" crew. People who naively believe that sufrommich May 2015 #52

Oh yes. zappaman May 2015 #120

Who are your representatives? BainsBane May 2015 #22

Ellison would still represent your district if you had never been born so how do you get to lord TheKentuckian May 2015 #127

"Who are your representatives" AgingAmerican May 2015 #132

...from someone who moved to Minneapolis in 2000. bvar22 May 2015 #244

+1, yep-- next they'll try to say 'neoliberal' is just a slur. Marr May 2015 #51

As Orwell understood, controlling language is controlling thought. zeemike May 2015 #98

You describe the OP and it's protagonists perfectly AgingAmerican May 2015 #108

Got to hand it to you, Woo. Maedhros May 2015 #232

+6.02e23 nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #243

The same ones have a problem with money to. stonecutter357 May 2015 #19

Here's the irony BainsBane May 2015 #25

It doesn't matter if it is Al Franken or Al Capone... kentuck May 2015 #21

-1 Buzz Clik May 2015 #39

Whenever I see someone Bobbie Jo May 2015 #23

Exactly! Same with the word 'oligarchy' which has been so overused R B Garr May 2015 #57

Oligarchy is a form of power structure in which power is effectively controlled by the weathy AgingAmerican May 2015 #158

A dramatic oversimplification. Being photographed with wealthy people R B Garr May 2015 #168

Taking money from them AgingAmerican May 2015 #175

Yup ismnotwasm May 2015 #66

Many people use the term incorrectly, I prefer to use it the way the self described Third Way Dragonfli May 2015 #27

New Democrat movement? Hmm, I would say New Democratic Movement. randys1 May 2015 #30

They call themselves that , not me. "New Democrat Coalition" for instance Dragonfli May 2015 #33

I still haven't gotten a response from you BainsBane May 2015 #34

I haven't gotten to reading it yet, if I missed something you wrote, I apoligize Dragonfli May 2015 #41

Great. Thanks. nt BainsBane May 2015 #71

Yet another tactic of Gang Hysterical. Buzz Clik May 2015 #47

"I’m a DLC Democrat." DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #49

I stand corrected, thank you /nt Dragonfli May 2015 #56

In his defense it's just a label and that quote was from a long time ago... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #58

His actions have never screamed, "DLC' to me, so I was surprised to hear it Dragonfli May 2015 #63

The DLC disbanded anyway./NT DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #65

Yes in 2011 after the Koch money scandal became too difficult to manage I can't say I blame them. nt Dragonfli May 2015 #70

Looks like you hit a nerve here my friend! hrmjustin May 2015 #32

Respectfully... Why can't we demand both social AND economic justice. NYC_SKP May 2015 #54

You can and you are. hrmjustin May 2015 #60

Great post. Fanstastic. Sweet as honey. You know how I can tell? Buzz Clik May 2015 #44

Third Wayer generally refers to one who promotes neoliberal economic policy. It has a definition. Marr May 2015 #45

Sadly, the way it gets slung around DU, it has lost all meaning beyond Nya nya nya.... Hekate May 2015 #211

Wow! You just called most DUers, other than yourself, as living in an imaginary world. Cleita May 2015 #55

I see it used in times when the argument is not in favor of the accusing poster. Thinkingabout May 2015 #59

What some folks fail to realize is that Democrats are made up of a diverse group. Are blue dogs still_one May 2015 #62

Important: Your post misses the point, which is CORRUPTION of democracy. woo me with science May 2015 #68

None are so blind... kentuck May 2015 #73

What they stand for is the crux of why we decide to support them or not, or should be Dragonfli May 2015 #85

Me too, Dragonfli. Enthusiast May 2015 #105

I think a lot of it might be "generational"... kentuck May 2015 #179

Unfortunately I have to agree, the younger generation, at least some of them, Dragonfli May 2015 #198

+100,000,000!!!!!!!! nt 99th_Monkey May 2015 #112

Yep. nt sufrommich May 2015 #69

The Democratic Party is a "diverse" political party Iliyah May 2015 #87

and within the same party, there is always an open communication link to persuade someone to your still_one May 2015 #107

Third-Wayism is an awful thing MannyGoldstein May 2015 #67

It was a literary device, an illustration of absurdity BainsBane May 2015 #72

When I parrot Third-Way talking points, I do MannyGoldstein May 2015 #80

I guess you don't. nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #205

Third Way = Corporatist Democrat, which accepts big corporations as the masters of society AZ Progressive May 2015 #76

Is that a common argument on DU? BainsBane May 2015 #86

The only people I've heard throw the term "pure" around LWolf May 2015 #83

You're free to make your own OP about your distaste for the word pure BainsBane May 2015 #90

Points: LWolf May 2015 #101

you don't own the messaging here. Warren Stupidity May 2015 #210

BB posted the OP, and is as entitled to keep posing questions as anyone else. Meanwhile... Hekate May 2015 #212

Third Way = Believes that big corporations are our Lords and see capitalism as our religion AZ Progressive May 2015 #89

FDR was capitalism's greatest savior BainsBane May 2015 #109

God I love this post ismnotwasm May 2015 #143

It's stuff like that BainsBane May 2015 #145

You are on a roll. Carry on! Hekate May 2015 #215

You already know what it means AgingAmerican May 2015 #93

No, most is in response to specific conversations BainsBane May 2015 #115

Welcome to the internet AgingAmerican May 2015 #123

Third Way = corporatists/economic royalists hifiguy May 2015 #94

Based on Taibbi my reading of "third way" is that it's bat signal for crypto-libertarian ucrdem May 2015 #95

LOL Iliyah May 2015 #110

That's from the Statue of Libertarian ucrdem May 2015 #189

Completely unrecommended. Enthusiast May 2015 #99

I am in Oregon's 5th Congressional District JEB May 2015 #104

Here's pretty much what I'm referring to when I use the term: Jackpine Radical May 2015 #114

odd, I see nothing but the hollow declaration stupidicus May 2015 #116

I have no problem with its proper use BainsBane May 2015 #125

It is *you* who will not demonstrate where MannyGoldstein May 2015 #128

Fascism is a very ugly ideology YoungDemCA May 2015 #129

Is there an organization that named itself The Third Way? nt MannyGoldstein May 2015 #131

There is. YoungDemCA May 2015 #133

Is there also a political philosophy commonly known MannyGoldstein May 2015 #135

of course you do stupidicus May 2015 #237

How interesting you think a capitalist state isn't bad enough BainsBane May 2015 #238

good grief stupidicus May 2015 #248

OMG. Phlem May 2015 #122

It's a generic slur, used by those who think the Democratic Party has been "taken over" YoungDemCA May 2015 #124

The myth of inclusivity kentuck May 2015 #154

Thanks for that BainsBane May 2015 #157

It's general shorthand for "corporatist Democrat" and is all too appropriately used. nt Romulox May 2015 #147

Yup, this is following the same script nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #150

I use it to describe.. mvd May 2015 #153

Alert? Ignore? BainsBane May 2015 #160

They are just tools you can use mvd May 2015 #162

Well, I can tell they aren't interested in building it here BainsBane May 2015 #174

Well they do talk about why they support what they do mvd May 2015 #176

What's really depressing is that the corporate-crats have gotten nearly everything they've asked for Romulox May 2015 #159

I don't know who called Franken and Ellison third way but octoberlib May 2015 #161

I realize that it's hard BainsBane May 2015 #163

I see where you're coming from. octoberlib May 2015 #169

Franken has emerged as an ardent defender of NSA spying. I don't get it either. nt Romulox May 2015 #164

Interesting, what does he support exactly? mvd May 2015 #165

Use google. I don't have the details at hand. nt Romulox May 2015 #166

I see - in 2013 he definitely defended NSA mvd May 2015 #171

Looks like elected progressives who support Hillary will get grief for it by some. hrmjustin May 2015 #167

I don't think "Hillary progressives" will get grief... kentuck May 2015 #181

Questions are good but grief is what some get. hrmjustin May 2015 #182

Of course, some will consider it grief. kentuck May 2015 #190

It depends on the poster I guess. hrmjustin May 2015 #191

I would expect criticism... kentuck May 2015 #197

Criticism that is fair should be taken well. hrmjustin May 2015 #199

My gratitude, BB. It's gotten to the point that I disregard anything a person says after "Third Way" Hekate May 2015 #173

I agree. I just assume third way threads are there to bash Hillary and her supporters. hrmjustin May 2015 #186

Thank you -- this thread has cleared things up about Third Way betsuni May 2015 #217

The problem with the "incremental change to pass more progressive laws" theory is Maedhros May 2015 #233

The dinos invented that term themselves to explain calling themselves democrats while Doctor_J May 2015 #219

3rdWay is To D as TeaParty is to R Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #222

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #223

LOL.. Senator Al Franken and Rep Keith Ellison were called the "Third Way"? No, not even surprised Cha May 2015 #224

I doubt that really happened MannyGoldstein May 2015 #228

I miss the unrec button. Scuba May 2015 #229

I just did a search, and can find no evidence MannyGoldstein May 2015 #230

I describe the exchange in another post in this thread BainsBane May 2015 #241

"Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence" MannyGoldstein May 2015 #242

out of touch, internet warriors, not much else JI7 May 2015 #234

The first time I came across the term "Third Way" was in a bio of Bill Clinton Samantha May 2015 #235

The country has since moved left BainsBane May 2015 #240

This board does not do context, sadly. Hekate May 2015 #245

Both Franken and Ellison are about as far from being Third Wayers KamaAina May 2015 #249