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In reply to the discussion: I wish we could talk sanely about the Clintons and their long history [View all]azureblue
(2,745 posts)But you can't. You identify yourself as nuts from the very beginning. When you say, "I'd be happy to stipulate that they haven't done anything illegal- but that doesn't mean that it isn't problematic. " You immediately expose yourself as a smear artist.The only thing you offer as fact is the amount that the Clintons have made from giving speeches, as you claim. But did you do any comparison to previous former Presidents' post office speaking engagement incomes? No. You make a clear admission that what you post is not illegal. You take it upon yourself, like all Republicans do, of claiming that something she said or did is a "problem" (yeah a problem for some muck raking Gooper) and use that as a launch pad. How Benghazi of you.
Let's be honest here- you quoted a source that has very recently proven to have a track record of smearing Ms. Clinton, and every one of those smears were rebutted and proven false, or at best, half truths. Need I mention a certain book that they touted that was proven to be a top to bottom lie? But that's OK with you, to use a discredited source.
Pitiful. You cannot present facts and show how those facts will adversely affect her ability to be a good president, nor diminish her impressive credentials and successes. You have to rely on innuendo, half truths, and character attacks to make your case. Pitiful.
If you want to go way back, then how about talking about how she and her husband, to the day he took office, tried to get universal health care, but the Repubs shut that down. Talk about the smear attacks that were launched against her as first lady, sec. of state and congressperson. Talk about how the GOP ginned up whitewater and hired a team to find anything they could to stop Bill Clinton. Talk about how she earned the admiration of world leaders. And as long as you want to treat them as a couple, then get to the stark truth of how Bill Clinton left office with a budget surplus.
But when you admit that talking about the Clintons makes you nuts, you pretty much blow your case out of the water.