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In reply to the discussion: Martin Luther King fought equally hard for civil rights and economic equality. [View all]
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)77. The struggle was not over in a few months and still continues though many many doors was opened.
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Martin Luther King fought equally hard for civil rights and economic equality. [View all]
Ken Burch
May 2015
OP
It's exactly the kind of split the owners of society want. Making you think one type of "rights" is
villager
May 2015
#4
bread keeps your body from starving,rights and dreams (the roses)keep your soul from starving.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#21
Imo, it is trolling. Economic Rights are Civil Rights. The inequality in this country today
sabrina 1
May 2015
#40
I believe it is being done because that's the only way they can tout their candidate.
cui bono
May 2015
#149
"economic issues do not include social issues. " say it again. maybe it will sink in
seabeyond
May 2015
#36
Until we get social equality, white straight men won't let us get economic justice.
KitSileya
May 2015
#71
No, I the vast majority of straight, white (christian) males (approx. 99%) ...
1StrongBlackMan
May 2015
#78
"the majority of LGBTQ who don't feel economically privileged enough to come out of the closet. "
Behind the Aegis
May 2015
#65
The comment is vile. It's really, really vile. It also demonstrates even more strongly what your OP
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#113
I never said coming out was always an option. In fact I was saying the opposite.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#126
Yep and women and POC have the same issues in the workplace an justice system....
bettyellen
May 2015
#147
But..but.. a couple of EXCEPTIONALLY well known and well documented dimwits in this thread
Number23
May 2015
#150
You know what? I have tried to ignore you. You keep blathering one insipid post to me after another
Number23
May 2015
#170
I don't need to put you on ignore. I am fully capable of ignoring you which seems to cause a literal
Number23
May 2015
#178
How many hours has it been since I typed my response and this is the Grade A idiocy that you
Number23
May 2015
#183
That's pretty cool how you claim not to read my posts but then call what I say idiocy...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#191
Look downthread, you've got damn near half a dozen posters attempting the Herculean task of
Number23
May 2015
#192
I see only three, and they were all pleasant and pretty much on the same page as me...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#193
when he turned to economic inequality and the vietnam war, his time was up. even worse,
msongs
May 2015
#10
You're mostly right about MLK although the economics was later in his life before the assassination.
craigmatic
May 2015
#12
It's a false dichotomy, and doesn't reflect what's happening on the ground at all
Chathamization
May 2015
#17
They had it right. You cannot have social equality without economic equality.
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#19
This is a revisionist agenda driven interpretation based on white, male straight privledge.
ismnotwasm
May 2015
#22
and the system to keep poor people down is not institutional oppression?
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#31
you can absolutely have economic justice without social justice. and that is the argument now. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#37
you are saying, we are saying set it aside. we are saying. may we PLEASE sit at the table with
seabeyond
May 2015
#81
What laws have been passed to promote social justice and what were the effects on the oppressed?
ismnotwasm
May 2015
#41
This country has had a Civil Rights Movement, a Women's Rights Movement and a Labor
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#44
We are all in this together. I have an evangelical Christian father who would love to see
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#51
I've never argued that you or anyone else in an oppressed group should ever "know their place".
Ken Burch
May 2015
#62
Just because you haven't said (or seen it), doesn't mean it hasn't happened. It does.
Behind the Aegis
May 2015
#64
"It's the centrists who will tell you to "wait your turn"," no. it is the populist group on du.
seabeyond
May 2015
#83
fuck that wedge issue crap, talk about dismissing. no, duers have actually said, minor issue,
seabeyond
May 2015
#82
then why are you REFUSING to acknowledge the social issues and unlevel playing field
seabeyond
May 2015
#115
why wont, any pushing this meme accept this simple fact. it has been stated repeatedly. we have
seabeyond
May 2015
#105
The other key to building a true coalition for real structural change, social AND economic,
Ken Burch
May 2015
#42
We are all in it together. We must all fight for each other because those that would oppress us
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#45
Sorry, but I disagree. This is why I don't get in feminism discussions. I've been told many times
liberal_at_heart
May 2015
#54
Supremes really is THE most important thing as far as seabeyond is concerned.
seabeyond
May 2015
#86
it is incredible that others do not feel it is most important. from dead blacks and women, to
seabeyond
May 2015
#92
Both are really important and I don't see why one has to be sidelined at the expense of the other...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#162
If I woke up tomorrow as American Violet, healthcare would be the #1 issue for me...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#180
Yeah, but you know you're just setting us both up for the "why can't you be nice like those OTHER
Number23
May 2015
#173
Silly African Americans, when did you get the ridiculous and absurd idea that you are
randys1
May 2015
#181
You know it! I just should just get used to know nothings chasing me around this board with the
Number23
May 2015
#184
That is nothing but the truth. And not only pretend to know it all, but actually try to browbeat and
Number23
May 2015
#186
"working-class whites(who have suffered economically as much as poc have suffered socially "
seabeyond
May 2015
#85
then do not have an issue when i say, we are starting on an unlevel playing field. at the very least
seabeyond
May 2015
#96
yes, you have used wedge issue in language. look at all the posts saying economic/social intwined
seabeyond
May 2015
#101
to state that blacks, gays women are not starting on an unlevel playing field is a false statement.
seabeyond
May 2015
#114
Agreed. And its never a statement I would personally make. At least not intentionally.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#120
but, you continue to say. regardless of many bringing it to your awareness. imagine that. nt
seabeyond
May 2015
#123
Social justice has not once dismissed economic. It has been consistently the other way around.
seabeyond
May 2015
#52
Nobody, to my knowledge, has tried to keep social justice out of election 2016.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#58
you, others say this. it has been in threads you and the others are in, there is never condemnation
seabeyond
May 2015
#88
Bella Abzug was a co-sponsor of The Equality Act in 1978 I think it was. The Equality Act was the
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#128
You're right that establishment hetero pols haven't done enough for LGBTQ rights.
Ken Burch
May 2015
#131
it is nice for you to allow us to be a part of 2016 elevction. so how about when we participate,
seabeyond
May 2015
#32
It's neither my place to allow you or forbid you to be part of the 2016 elections
Ken Burch
May 2015
#67
maybe when Ops attacking me personally and whole threads of mra pals insulting, ridiculing,
seabeyond
May 2015
#89
people are so busy trying to figure out and create my agenda, no one is actually listening to what i
seabeyond
May 2015
#98
"It's just that social isn't all that matters." strawman. "No one should tell you that social doesn'
seabeyond
May 2015
#104
no one is even asking for fuckin shit, but the acknowledgment of simple truths. you do not have to
seabeyond
May 2015
#110
i am done. totally done. done. and as we continue this argument, i will continue to call the
seabeyond
May 2015
#118
We aren't having an argument. You are simply attacking me with no justification
Ken Burch
May 2015
#125
it is amazing the number of these threads you and yours for economic justice throws up, yet....
seabeyond
May 2015
#35
You have people in this very thread stating it. And you did not address my points.
seabeyond
May 2015
#49
Ken's saying both things are intertwined, and he didn't call you a troll...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#61
first sentence... i did not go further in your post. already crap. i did not say ken said i was a
seabeyond
May 2015
#90
Three people sharing that if economic not priority it is trolling, just a start.
seabeyond
May 2015
#48
and they are BOTH wrong. dying while black is ALL social and no economic. that simple.
seabeyond
May 2015
#91
i have spelled it out for you so many times, as others have spelled it out for you in such simplicit
seabeyond
May 2015
#117
no. and it was pointed out. using wedge issue. stating poor white AS oppressed as minorities.
seabeyond
May 2015
#124
Again, neither of them claimed that economic issues *the* only thing...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#161
The struggle was not over in a few months and still continues though many many doors was opened.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#77
The first time I took part in a 'gay political event' that event was demonstrating against health
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#133