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6. TO THE GREATEST PAGE. Lies and propaganda are standard MO for corrupt, corporate government.
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:29 AM
May 2015

We live in a vile, dishonest, magnificently funded propaganda state.

We have come to accept the flat-out lies and propaganda assaults of corporate government as business as usual. We shouldn't.

A highly publicized Kabuki Theater sham vote to allow Democrats to pretend to oppose the predatory TPP.....followed predictably and immediately by a cynical reversal to vote in favor of Fast Track.

Insincere, massively publicized speeches about reining in military power,
followed immediately by huge escalations in military power, a new war in Syria, a new war in Iraq, carpet bombing of captive populations in Gaza, a continuation of the unconscionable droning of civilians in multiple countries with which we are not at war, and a new TRILLION DOLLAR ramp-up of nuclear weapons...That's not acceptable.

Lying, manipulative claims to care about the environment, while selling off expanses of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling, opening the Atlantic Coast for drilling, relentless support for fracking, and defense of the most environmentally predatory "free trade" agreements in this nation's history.....That's not acceptable.

Shameless, lying speeches extolling the government's transparency and protection of whistleblowers and respect for journalism, when we have all seen the treatment of Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden by this administration, and when we have all witnessed the outrageous targeting of investigative journalists through abuse of the Espionage Act....That's not acceptable.

Disgusting claims to represent the interests of the 99 percent, while stuffing the cabinet with predatory corporatists, signing cuts in aid for the poor and disabled repeatedly, putting SS on the table as a "greater evil" to justify the imposition of austerity greater even that that Paul Ryan initially requested, giving nauseating speeches about the need to eat our peas while repeating Republican LIES tying SS to the defiicit, personally lobbying to gain settlements for criminal bankers, and then unconscionably lobbying for the criminal CRONYBUS to even further deregulate banks and allow the looting of America to happen again.....That's not acceptable.


We are fed on slick PR and orchestrated lies as standard MO of our government now. This administration has legalized propaganda aimed at Americans that was considered unacceptable in previous decades. We are constantly assaulted with vapid pretty words and pictures that lie to our faces about what this administration cares about and is actually doing. And now we cannot even have discussion on the internet without the weird, creepy voices of corporatism infesting every single conversation through relentless disinformation and propaganda campaigns revealed by Edward Snowden and others. Look at the lying absurdity in our political campaigns. Hillary, author of the predatory TPP and enthusiastic supporter of expansing H1B visas, is pretending to our faces that she cares about income inequality. We are treated like blithering idiots.

This nation has sunk to the level of a corrupt, totalitarian state in its contempt for its own citizens, all because corporate money now drives everything it does. This is the difference between a representative government and a corporate government. By definition, corporations exist to grow their own profit and power. They don't represent anyone but themselves. They manipulate to grow profit, just like our government constantly manipulates us to sell the profitable, predatory corporate agenda it has already decided to implement against our interests.


Yes, the White House is lying to us. Hillary is lying to us. Wall Street and Madison Avenue are lying to us.

Time to reject the lies.


Huge K&R.

States that build surveillance machines also build propaganda machines. Propaganda is standard MO of our government and our political party machines now.


The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097

U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111

Snowden: ‘Training Guide’ for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/

Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796

Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026163872

Salon: Obama confidant’s spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/

The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367

The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801

The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242

The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454

Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741

Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351









for the life of me i can't figure out why Obama is pushing this so hard rurallib May 2015 #1
The only theory I've seen that makes any kind of sense SusanCalvin May 2015 #13
that is pretty much my conclusion rurallib May 2015 #34
Most likely. 840high May 2015 #55
I think that's certainly a part of it... elzenmahn May 2015 #73
That's scary to hear. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #78
Bush pushed for it too at almost exactly the same point in his presidency, when he sabrina 1 May 2015 #15
EZ, ... PosterChild May 2015 #42
you forgot this rurallib May 2015 #49
Lol tennstar May 2015 #53
Maybe you think . .. PosterChild May 2015 #65
Oh dear god. SusanCalvin May 2015 #58
Oh ye of little faith. /nt/ PosterChild May 2015 #62
No faith whatsoever. SusanCalvin May 2015 #64
It's part of his post-White-House job search. JDPriestly May 2015 #44
I fear I must agree with you rurallib May 2015 #50
It's because he really wants this Joe Turner May 2015 #51
....x10 840high May 2015 #56
Meet '270 Solutions'... Segami May 2015 #2
Where did they get their startup funding? n/t hootinholler May 2015 #20
Not sure Segami May 2015 #29
That name 270 solutions is an interesting one. zeemike May 2015 #52
I am still agnostic about TPP, but the dishonesty of the Obama administration Vattel May 2015 #3
I'm completely opposed to signing contracts I am not allowed to read. It is that simple, really. sabrina 1 May 2015 #17
I agree, but it is even worse to be dishonest about a contract and then Vattel May 2015 #23
Yes, of course it is. The problem is we don't know what is in this deal. And that is just not sabrina 1 May 2015 #28
We are pretty sure that, as with NAFTA, corporations which are artificial bodies created by JDPriestly May 2015 #47
I'm beginning to think that someone is being held hostage somewhere until this is signed. sabrina 1 May 2015 #70
It makes no sense, not even politically. JDPriestly May 2015 #71
It makes sense Art_from_Ark May 2015 #82
Amen. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #60
I don't understand how somebody can be "agnostic" about it magical thyme May 2015 #74
'Progressive Coalition for American Jobs' KG May 2015 #4
So the oligarchs who want this deal have fake support groups, blog posters, etc. Who knew? Scuba May 2015 #5
TO THE GREATEST PAGE. Lies and propaganda are standard MO for corrupt, corporate government. woo me with science May 2015 #6
Thank YOU for this information! haikugal May 2015 #16
Some day all these deceptive propaganda groups will become illegal I hope. Isn't it illegal to sabrina 1 May 2015 #18
No. It's now legal. delrem May 2015 #48
Unbelievable! I remembered that it was illegal to use propaganda on the American people, but had no sabrina 1 May 2015 #77
Yes. But you'd better believe it. delrem May 2015 #81
It was done so quietly, woo me with science May 2015 #83
Nope. I think so many of the viewers of it are themselves partial owners of the corporations raouldukelives May 2015 #75
Righteous Rant, woo. bvar22 May 2015 #37
Thanks for the links. Excellent info. Bookmark. JEB May 2015 #80
Ari Rabin-Havt did an interview with a spokes-hack from this PCAJ group bullwinkle428 May 2015 #7
Great link, thank you. That too should be an OP, the only way to combat these sabrina 1 May 2015 #19
That was amazing. Marr May 2015 #61
I have no doubts about this. Enthusiast May 2015 #8
kick for exposure. follow the money. ;) NuttyFluffers May 2015 #9
To pull this off Obama is going to have to sound more like John McCain, Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney fasttense May 2015 #10
LOL! Knock me over with a feather. Big K&R. myrna minx May 2015 #11
K & R !!! Thespian2 May 2015 #12
Neocons and neolibs. 99Forever May 2015 #14
DU noticed this group coming out of nowhere in March... cascadiance May 2015 #21
^ Wilms May 2015 #22
Astroturfing for another Aerows May 2015 #24
Actually, there are legitimate people in that organization, such as Deval Patrick, Chritien Gregorie Hoyt May 2015 #25
I don't know who Chritien Gregoire is, but are you going to deny that this cali May 2015 #26
You are what you Third Way IDemo May 2015 #27
The author at that link doesn't have much pertinent experience beyond computer game development. Hoyt May 2015 #30
Lots of groups? Like environmentalists, for instance? IDemo May 2015 #33
Yeah, well some of those you name are just trying to increase membership/readership Hoyt May 2015 #35
Are you Attacking the Messenger again, bvar22 May 2015 #38
Like you. LMAO. Hoyt May 2015 #39
No. Not like me. bvar22 May 2015 #41
+1 Well said. BeanMusical May 2015 #46
+10000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #54
Here we go again Gregoire is tennstar May 2015 #57
You seem to be in the minority in your opinion. Hoyt May 2015 #59
Coming from you tennstar May 2015 #67
Oh, it's you. delrem May 2015 #63
Deval Patrick has joined Bain Capital and says Romney is not such a bad guy. djean111 May 2015 #76
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc May 2015 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #32
Deval Patrick? colsohlibgal May 2015 #36
Deval "Bain Capital" Patrick. (n/t) SMC22307 May 2015 #66
Yes, I came across that serving of turd-drop soup a couple weeks ago. Sent back to kitchen. Eleanors38 May 2015 #40
kick to expose the cancer of slimy corporate propaganda woo me with science May 2015 #43
Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #45
I think it's a safe bet to assume that ANY progressive political action committee is a fake. TrollBuster9090 May 2015 #68
Hope you don't mind, but I"m linking brentspeak's OP from the 10th... SMC22307 May 2015 #69
He sees how well fucking over the American Worker (via NAFTA) paid off for the Clintons... AzDar May 2015 #72
kick CORRUPTION woo me with science May 2015 #79
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