Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
General Discussion
In reply to the discussion: Astroturf Warning: TPP Critics Call Out Fake 'Progressive' Group Pushing Corporate Trade Agenda [View all]woo me with science
(32,139 posts)6. TO THE GREATEST PAGE. Lies and propaganda are standard MO for corrupt, corporate government.
We live in a vile, dishonest, magnificently funded propaganda state.
We have come to accept the flat-out lies and propaganda assaults of corporate government as business as usual. We shouldn't.
A highly publicized Kabuki Theater sham vote to allow Democrats to pretend to oppose the predatory TPP.....followed predictably and immediately by a cynical reversal to vote in favor of Fast Track.
Insincere, massively publicized speeches about reining in military power, followed immediately by huge escalations in military power, a new war in Syria, a new war in Iraq, carpet bombing of captive populations in Gaza, a continuation of the unconscionable droning of civilians in multiple countries with which we are not at war, and a new TRILLION DOLLAR ramp-up of nuclear weapons...That's not acceptable.
Lying, manipulative claims to care about the environment, while selling off expanses of the Gulf of Mexico for drilling, opening the Atlantic Coast for drilling, relentless support for fracking, and defense of the most environmentally predatory "free trade" agreements in this nation's history.....That's not acceptable.
Shameless, lying speeches extolling the government's transparency and protection of whistleblowers and respect for journalism, when we have all seen the treatment of Chelsea Manning and Edward Snowden by this administration, and when we have all witnessed the outrageous targeting of investigative journalists through abuse of the Espionage Act....That's not acceptable.
Disgusting claims to represent the interests of the 99 percent, while stuffing the cabinet with predatory corporatists, signing cuts in aid for the poor and disabled repeatedly, putting SS on the table as a "greater evil" to justify the imposition of austerity greater even that that Paul Ryan initially requested, giving nauseating speeches about the need to eat our peas while repeating Republican LIES tying SS to the defiicit, personally lobbying to gain settlements for criminal bankers, and then unconscionably lobbying for the criminal CRONYBUS to even further deregulate banks and allow the looting of America to happen again.....That's not acceptable.
We are fed on slick PR and orchestrated lies as standard MO of our government now. This administration has legalized propaganda aimed at Americans that was considered unacceptable in previous decades. We are constantly assaulted with vapid pretty words and pictures that lie to our faces about what this administration cares about and is actually doing. And now we cannot even have discussion on the internet without the weird, creepy voices of corporatism infesting every single conversation through relentless disinformation and propaganda campaigns revealed by Edward Snowden and others. Look at the lying absurdity in our political campaigns. Hillary, author of the predatory TPP and enthusiastic supporter of expansing H1B visas, is pretending to our faces that she cares about income inequality. We are treated like blithering idiots.
This nation has sunk to the level of a corrupt, totalitarian state in its contempt for its own citizens, all because corporate money now drives everything it does. This is the difference between a representative government and a corporate government. By definition, corporations exist to grow their own profit and power. They don't represent anyone but themselves. They manipulate to grow profit, just like our government constantly manipulates us to sell the profitable, predatory corporate agenda it has already decided to implement against our interests.
Yes, the White House is lying to us. Hillary is lying to us. Wall Street and Madison Avenue are lying to us.
Time to reject the lies.
Huge K&R.States that build surveillance machines also build propaganda machines. Propaganda is standard MO of our government and our political party machines now.
The US government's online campaigns of disinformation, manipulation, and smear.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024560097
U.S. Repeals Propaganda Ban, Spreads Government-Made News To Americans
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023262111
Snowden: Training Guide for GCHQ, NSA Agents Infiltrating and Disrupting Alternative Media Online
http://21stcenturywire.com/2014/02/25/snowden-training-guide-for-gchq-nsa-agents-infiltrating-and-disrupting-alternative-media-online/
Obama taps "cognitive infiltrator" Cass Sunstein for Committee to create "trust" in NSA:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023512796
Editor of major German newspaper says he planted stories for CIA
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026163872
Salon: Obama confidants spine-chilling proposal: Cass Sunstein wants the government to "cognitively infiltrate" anti-government groups
http://www.salon.com/2010/01/15/sunstein_2/
The influx of corporate propaganda-spouting posters is blatant and unnatural.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3189367
The goal of the propaganda assaults across the internet is not to convince anyone of anything.*
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023359801
The government figured out sockpuppet management but not "persona management."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10023358242
The Gentleman's Guide To Forum Spies (spooks, feds, etc.)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4159454
Seventeen techniques for truth suppression.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4249741
Just do some Googling on astroturfing - big organizations have some sophisticated tools.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=1208351
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
83 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Astroturf Warning: TPP Critics Call Out Fake 'Progressive' Group Pushing Corporate Trade Agenda [View all]
IDemo
May 2015
OP
Bush pushed for it too at almost exactly the same point in his presidency, when he
sabrina 1
May 2015
#15
I'm completely opposed to signing contracts I am not allowed to read. It is that simple, really.
sabrina 1
May 2015
#17
Yes, of course it is. The problem is we don't know what is in this deal. And that is just not
sabrina 1
May 2015
#28
We are pretty sure that, as with NAFTA, corporations which are artificial bodies created by
JDPriestly
May 2015
#47
I'm beginning to think that someone is being held hostage somewhere until this is signed.
sabrina 1
May 2015
#70
So the oligarchs who want this deal have fake support groups, blog posters, etc. Who knew?
Scuba
May 2015
#5
TO THE GREATEST PAGE. Lies and propaganda are standard MO for corrupt, corporate government.
woo me with science
May 2015
#6
Some day all these deceptive propaganda groups will become illegal I hope. Isn't it illegal to
sabrina 1
May 2015
#18
Unbelievable! I remembered that it was illegal to use propaganda on the American people, but had no
sabrina 1
May 2015
#77
Nope. I think so many of the viewers of it are themselves partial owners of the corporations
raouldukelives
May 2015
#75
Great link, thank you. That too should be an OP, the only way to combat these
sabrina 1
May 2015
#19
To pull this off Obama is going to have to sound more like John McCain, Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney
fasttense
May 2015
#10
Actually, there are legitimate people in that organization, such as Deval Patrick, Chritien Gregorie
Hoyt
May 2015
#25
The author at that link doesn't have much pertinent experience beyond computer game development.
Hoyt
May 2015
#30
Yeah, well some of those you name are just trying to increase membership/readership
Hoyt
May 2015
#35
Yes, I came across that serving of turd-drop soup a couple weeks ago. Sent back to kitchen.
Eleanors38
May 2015
#40
I think it's a safe bet to assume that ANY progressive political action committee is a fake.
TrollBuster9090
May 2015
#68