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gollygee

(22,336 posts)
38. Are you speaking for MLK?
Sun May 17, 2015, 09:53 AM
May 2015

He was a proponent of affirmative action.

http://fair.org/extra-online-articles/the-right-has-a-dream/

King was well aware of the arguments used against affirmative action policies. As far back as 1964, he was writing in Why We Can’t Wait: “Whenever the issue of compensatory treatment for the Negro is raised, some of our friends recoil in horror. The Negro should be granted equality, they agree; but he should ask nothing more. On the surface, this appears reasonable, but it is not realistic.”

King supported affirmative action-type programs because he never confused the dream with American reality. As he put it, “A society that has done something special against the Negro for hundreds of years must now do something special for the Negro” to compete on a just and equal basis (quoted in Let the Trumpet Sound, by Stephen Oates).

In a 1965 Playboy interview, King compared affirmative action-style policies to the GI Bill: “Within common law we have ample precedents for special compensatory programs…. And you will remember that America adopted a policy of special treatment for her millions of veterans after the war.”

In King’s teachings, affirmative action approaches were not “reverse discrimination” or “racial preference.” King promoted affirmative action not as preference for race over race (or gender over gender), but as a preference for inclusion, for equal oportunity, for real democracy. Nor was King’s integration punitive: For him, integration benefited all Americans, male and female, white and non-white alike. And contrary to Gingrich, King insisted that, along with individual efforts, collective problems require collective solutions.

I'm a little conflicted about this Ms. Yertle May 2015 #1
It's a balancing act madville May 2015 #2
They don't have to, they could just admit the most able students. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #8
They think that is achieved by a formula of test scores and GPA. Most universities don't. pnwmom May 2015 #14
Why do they have to do that? Snow Leopard May 2015 #10
It needs to be a cross-section of the population. madville May 2015 #13
Oh please! There's always Yale rusty fender May 2015 #3
And Princeton, Stanford, Cal, Columbia.... nt hifiguy May 2015 #12
On a more serious note... rusty fender May 2015 #4
Without some diversity standards what would happen FLPanhandle May 2015 #5
Plus factor in that tests like the SAT madville May 2015 #15
Maybe it's time they review the criteria they're using if it's giving them such lopsided results? Chathamization May 2015 #6
Flip it around 1939 May 2015 #7
DU would be outraged and politicians would be queueing up to denounce the college. Nye Bevan May 2015 #21
wouldn't the right approach be to not ask gender/race/sexual orientation etc. on applications? DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #9
but but... GummyBearz May 2015 #11
can't we have an argument without wings? DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #31
Are you speaking for MLK? gollygee May 2015 #38
I am a black man that does not want to be judged by colour of my skin. DeadEyeDyck May 2015 #42
actually, Martin Luther King supported affirmative action JustinL May 2015 #41
Harvard has to deal with paid agents gaming their admissions system, too daredtowork May 2015 #16
Finally LittleBlue May 2015 #17
I guess they want the same numbers they have at UCLA and UC Berkeley mnhtnbb May 2015 #18
Ban discrimination by race and also ban legacy preferences. Nye Bevan May 2015 #19
So what happens when colleges are full of Asians and Whites only? FLPanhandle May 2015 #20
I don't know what the answer is but the article suggests DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #22
No it doesn't FLPanhandle May 2015 #24
From the Original Poster's article: DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #25
Yes, but when you account for that percentage also applying at other schools too FLPanhandle May 2015 #27
That's kind of an offensive post. Nye Bevan May 2015 #23
Not meant to be offensive FLPanhandle May 2015 #29
Or maybe no federal money going to schools with selective admissions. That'd take care of Chathamization May 2015 #30
Scores and Grades are not the only basis on judging who is a worthy student alphafemale May 2015 #26
I know you didn't mean it but DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #32
Never feign interest in higher math. alphafemale May 2015 #37
So asians lack life and flair, plus they are boring at parties AngryAmish May 2015 #34
No. You're saying that. alphafemale May 2015 #36
I don't think race-based preferences become either more or less legal/moral because they harm Romulox May 2015 #28
This is a really difficult subject... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #33
First, the idea Harvard limits their undergrads to such a low number reeks AngryAmish May 2015 #35
We are debating this because serious efforts to provide equal educational Vattel May 2015 #39
Just another example of how humans can't have everything The2ndWheel May 2015 #40
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