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TheKentuckian

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53. Liberal? She and Obama or corporate conservatives and global interventionists. What is moderate?

Sun May 17, 2015, 11:01 AM

May 2015

St. Ronnie of Rayguns? George W. Bush?

Would Strom Thurmond be center right or just barely conservative at this point? Fucking Birchers have been mainstreamed and we have supposedly liberal Democrats calling middle of the road New Dealers the radical leftist fringe and people wonder why things are fucked up and getting worse all the time.

People like you are dragging the country to the right and have been radicalizing the regressive elements in the process.

The more "center" the Democratic party goes the more batshit crazy the other morons get and I'm not going to enable it or pretend it is a lesser evil anymore because in the big picture it really isn't because we are preventing ourselves from being able to actually mount any practical opposition to right wing politics.

Your school of thought has had full sway for over a generation and it has proven to be a failure almost across the board with the only real progress made on gay equality and that is because the people that pushed the hardest ignored the fuck out of you and fought like hell with no regard to offending the fake center conservatives that supposedly ever sell out and fuck up is designed to appease but actually it seems the independents are the first people sent scurrying away in response.

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So does it come down to this - the best candidates for our principles "can't win", so we must [View all] NRaleighLiberal May 2015 OP

I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious May 2015 #1

since you have said this repeatedly, so, if sanders does not win, you advocate NOT voting dem? seabeyond May 2015 #31

Who told you Senator Sanders was the "lesser candidate?" leftofcool May 2015 #2

Sanders is the greater candidate for me - but there is a daily barrage of NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #3

That would only be true if Senator Sanders ran in the general election as an Independent leftofcool May 2015 #4

Don't blame Nader. If anyone, blame Rove. Gregorian May 2015 #17

Gore only needed to win his homestate to win yeoman6987 May 2015 #21

Sounds like something from WorldNutDaily. SMC22307 May 2015 #27

We all should. It's a fact. I know facts are ugly and uncomfortable yeoman6987 May 2015 #34

Bull. Shit. Adrahil May 2015 #51

Gore won. Furthermore, which candidates should be barred from running? Gregorian May 2015 #55

Vote for who you believe in in the primaries. upaloopa May 2015 #5

That's not accurate in a primary and you know it. Agschmid May 2015 #30

Can we count on your vote for Sanders after he wins the nomination? Vincardog May 2015 #26

I'm sure Hillary will endorse him after the Primaries, right? Jackpine Radical May 2015 #52

Exactly all Democrats will get behind Bernie after the primaries Vincardog May 2015 #64

Sometimes 1939 May 2015 #6

This should be a good idea, but... appal_jack May 2015 #11

And damage this country for generations? Are you nuts? Adrahil May 2015 #50

Real people are already suffering, and many of us have been holding our noses and voting. ladyVet May 2015 #65

Any examples? treestar May 2015 #67

You seem to put much more value in what you read on the internet than your preferred candidate. Tarheel_Dem May 2015 #7

and you miss my point completely. NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #9

You and me both. TBF May 2015 #8

we are doing fine! thanks so much.....it is remarkable, isn't it? NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #10

OK that is funny - TBF May 2015 #42

I won't settle bigwillq May 2015 #12

The best candidate will win. JaneyVee May 2015 #13

LOL L0oniX May 2015 #57

That's been the case for almost every election in history. DCBob May 2015 #14

You have to lose to win. LWolf May 2015 #15

I'll do what I do just about every election Ruby the Liberal May 2015 #16

Don't blame you... Thespian2 May 2015 #18

Yes the game is rigged. Autumn May 2015 #19

Why do you claim the game is rigged? brooklynite May 2015 #20

The game is rigged for those with huge money - and since the money controls the media... NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #22

All the more reason then... brooklynite May 2015 #32

"All the more reason then.. DJ13 May 2015 #35

So your philsophy is to stand on principle and lose? brooklynite May 2015 #37

So your philsophy is to stand on principle DJ13 May 2015 #38

The only way to change the rules is to change the Supreme Court or the Constitution brooklynite May 2015 #39

The point is that we've already lost :( TBF May 2015 #43

It's a refusal to accept reality treestar May 2015 #68

Maybe you can do a Bernie tomato BrotherIvan May 2015 #23

National elections have a broad electorate, thus very left candidates stand no chance. MohRokTah May 2015 #24

If your team wins, the quarterback doesn't matter... Sancho May 2015 #25

I can't speak for anyone but myself, of course, KMOD May 2015 #28

The lesser of evils augment is a bullshit argument Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #29

I will not "settle" anymore. 840high May 2015 #33

Same as it ever was Sobax May 2015 #36

They CAN win, IF we stop listening to this nonsense which we have been doing for far too long. sabrina 1 May 2015 #40

How? brooklynite May 2015 #47

it's ironic that may duers who bash poor people for voting "against their interest", support Doctor_J May 2015 #41

How many of these policies will he be able to deliver on, if he loses? brooklynite May 2015 #46

Even if he wins, I don't think he can deliver on many of them mythology May 2015 #58

Part of being the "best candidate for our principals" is being able to implement those principles. NYC Liberal May 2015 #44

Liberal? She and Obama or corporate conservatives and global interventionists. What is moderate? TheKentuckian May 2015 #53

Nope, Hillary Clinton is a liberal. NYC Liberal May 2015 #54

I can remember when the same things were said about Al Gore. R B Garr May 2015 #45

That's what primary elections are about. MineralMan May 2015 #48

+1 FLPanhandle May 2015 #60

Thanks. MineralMan May 2015 #61

It's called politics. Adrahil May 2015 #49

Fuck that. hootinholler May 2015 #56

Vote for the primary candidate that best reflects your preferred position mythology May 2015 #59

We need to use a "ranked-choice" voting system, but we don't. MH1 May 2015 #62

This is the way it's always been. aikoaiko May 2015 #63

the one who gets the most votes stands for our principles treestar May 2015 #66