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Octafish

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8. Ordering CIA to kill Diem -- or Castro -- wasn't one of them.
Sun May 17, 2015, 01:53 PM
May 2015
Who changed the coup into the murder of Diem, Nhu and a Catholic priest?

From The Secret History of the CIA by Joseph Trento

Who changed the coup into the murder of Diem, Nhu and a Catholic priest accompanying them? To this day, nothing has been found in government archives tying the killings to either John or Robert Kennedy. So how did the tools and talents developed by Bill Harvey for ZR/RIFLE and Operation MONGOOSE get exported to Vietnam? Kennedy immediately ordered (William R.) Corson to find out what had happened and who was responsible. The answer he came up with: “On instructions from Averell Harriman…. The orders that ended in the deaths of Diem and his brother originated with Harriman and were carried out by Henry Cabot Lodge’s own military assistant.”

Having served as ambassador to Moscow and governor of New York, W. Averell Harriman was in the middle of a long public career. In 1960, President-elect Kennedy appointed him ambassador-at-large, to operate “with the full confidence of the president and an intimate knowledge of all aspects of United States policy.” By 1963, according to Corson, Harriman was running “Vietnam without consulting the president or the attorney general.”

The president had begun to suspect that not everyone on his national security team was loyal. As Corson put it, “Kenny O’Donnell (JFK’s appointments secretary) was convinced that McGeorge Bundy, the national security advisor, was taking orders from Ambassador Averell Harriman and not the president. He was especially worried about Michael Forrestal, a young man on the White House staff who handled liaison on Vietnam with Harriman.”

At the heart of the murders was the sudden and strange recall of Saigon Station Chief Jocko Richardson and his replacement by a no-name team barely known to history. The key member was a Special Operations Army officer, John Michael Dunn, who took his orders, not from the normal CIA hierarchy but from Harriman and Forrestal.

According to Corson, “John Michael Dunn was known to be in touch with the coup plotters,” although Dunn’s role has never been made public. Corson believes that Richardson was removed so that Dunn, assigned to Ambassador Lodge for “special operations,” could act without hindrance.

SOURCE:

“The Secret History of the CIA.” Joseph Trento. 2001, Prima Publishing. pp. 334-335.

Averell Harriman, DUers may recall, worked with Prescott Bush Sr to arm Hitler in the 1930s.

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Guess if you are going to discredit yourself it is best to stir as much Thinkingabout May 2015 #1
+1. Appalling. Faygo Kid May 2015 #4
Seymour Hersch is, indeed, an irresponsible writer. MineralMan May 2015 #2
Yabbut My Lai, right? OilemFirchen May 2015 #3
This is a very, very sophisticated smear of both President Kennedy and Seymour Hersh. Octafish May 2015 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #9
Thanks, 1000words. Proud to say I also once clobbered Sy Hersh on DU... Octafish May 2015 #14
thank you grasswire May 2015 #15
How anyone believes a word he writes now is beyond me. FLPanhandle May 2015 #6
Yeah, like "chopping" bin Laden corpse before dumping him into the ocean (nt) question everything May 2015 #12
President Kennedy approved the Bay of Pigs invasion, which he inherited from Eisenhower who still_one May 2015 #7
Ordering CIA to kill Diem -- or Castro -- wasn't one of them. Octafish May 2015 #8
Prouty mentioned that Bundy called the air support off for Bay of Pigs jakeXT May 2015 #18
1961-1963 Peace was at the top of the national agenda. Octafish May 2015 #19
Dark Side of Camelot ucrdem May 2015 #10
Oh goody. Another journalist meets the smear machine. delrem May 2015 #11
and a few new ones this time grasswire May 2015 #16
Pretty much anyone who is opposed to Obama gets smeared. Vattel May 2015 #17
And we ever take this guy seriously? The idea of JFK trying to assassinate Castro was floated at the jwirr May 2015 #13
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