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Joe Turner

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89. It's not feasible to do skill work here

Sun May 17, 2015, 02:21 PM

May 2015

when there is little manufacturing here to support it AND little economic incentive to invest if foreign competition can under cut your ability to be profitable. What you don't realize is the our trade policy discourages investment in manufacturing. Other countries encourage manufacturing through restrictions on trade. Good paying jobs? Compared to Walmart yes, compared to decades ago in that industry no-not even close. Yeah, "we should be doing" is easy for you to say.

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ALERT: DFA Warning New TPP Provision Would Cut Medicare $700 Million to Help Pay for Trade Aid [View all] cali May 2015 OP

The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians And Media That Own And Control Us cantbeserious May 2015 #1

They could care less what we want or need for our survival. Enthusiast May 2015 #51

Great video! Pooka Fey May 2015 #64

This sort of crap is exactly why Obama is pushing for fast track. Egnever May 2015 #2

War is Peace! woo me with science May 2015 #3

Slogans are arguments! Egnever May 2015 #4

2+2=5! woo me with science May 2015 #5

TPP is liberal trade policy Mnpaul May 2015 #83

They can peddle nonsense as fast as an old west gunfighter can fire his six shooter. Enthusiast May 2015 #95

huh? but this is a result of pushing for it. cali May 2015 #7

Are you saying that President Obama doesn't want insurance for workers unemployed because of TPP? Vincardog May 2015 #41

That's an unfair accusation. It's upaetting that Obama would Exilednight May 2015 #43

SNAP Obama revealed as his cabinet choices never did. Vincardog May 2015 #44

It's part of Sequester in 2024. Jeez, by then they will have done something else. Hoyt May 2015 #6

Nice to know backers of TPP realize that workers will need assistance if it is passed Joe Turner May 2015 #52

They are workers who will need assistance whether TPP passes or not. Hoyt May 2015 #57

What? Populist_Prole May 2015 #58

Getting assistance after their jobs are exported is of little consequence Joe Turner May 2015 #66

I don't think a lot, if any, of highly skilled jobs have been sent overseas. Hoyt May 2015 #77

enacting deleterious trade deals is not embracing globalization Joe Turner May 2015 #84

Most of those countries have significant operations right here in America. They embrace trade, and Hoyt May 2015 #85

They embrace trade on their terms not ours Joe Turner May 2015 #86

Those plants bring good jobs to areas that don't have jobs. Hoyt May 2015 #88

It's not feasible to do skill work here Joe Turner May 2015 #89

I think that is what TPP does, remove remaining restrictions on trade. Hoyt May 2015 #90

Like NAFTA removed restrictions on trade? Joe Turner May 2015 #91

Isolationism in today's world, really is insanity. Hoyt May 2015 #92

Sorry enacting Corporate trade pacts is insanity Joe Turner May 2015 #93

Opposition to a particular trade bill is NOT isolationism! markpkessinger May 2015 #115

Well a lot of folks here are against almost all foreign trade. Hoyt May 2015 #119

Just wondering tennstar May 2015 #100

Like most folks, I work through an evil corporation. Hoyt May 2015 #101

Whom ever tennstar May 2015 #107

I bet most folks who buy your paintings work for corporations. Hoyt May 2015 #108

Say what? cuncator May 2015 #96

There are tons of tech jobs right here. And some of our tech people aren't nearly as good Hoyt May 2015 #97

Yes, there are tech jobs here . . . markpkessinger May 2015 #104

Not disputing it is tough if one loses their job. But there are other sides to story. Hoyt May 2015 #106

You don't believe many "high skilled" jobs have gone overseas? bvar22 May 2015 #102

I bet 50 cent a day peasants aren't making those type machines. Hoyt May 2015 #103

Please try to remain focused. bvar22 May 2015 #110

Would seem easier for you to name some highly skilled jobs that have been Hoyt May 2015 #111

I didn't make that preposterous claim. bvar22 May 2015 #126

Medicare rates have already risen. My co-pays went way up for my medications. JDPriestly May 2015 #79

Just a few years ago, there was no coverage for prescription meds. Obama has improved Hoyt May 2015 #98

That's been said about every single trade treaty since Reagan Joe Turner May 2015 #109

We'd be screwed without trade. Hoyt May 2015 #112

You are running in circles Joe Turner May 2015 #114

Actually, JDPriestly May 2015 #113

Actually, the ACA began closing the so-called donut hole in 2010. In 2019, the full impact of the Hoyt May 2015 #120

No problem with corporations. It's just that they aren't people. JDPriestly May 2015 #121

Actually, I think that's a good idea to have corporations compensate employees Hoyt May 2015 #123

Yes. One major problem with our trade agreements thus far has been that the 1% has made JDPriestly May 2015 #124

Our agreement only goes to employee compensation. I don't think the ISDS Hoyt May 2015 #125

Another petition from Credo Action eridani May 2015 #8

This makes more sense than the OP's source. Thank you. Raine1967 May 2015 #33

Thanks for the link red dog 1 May 2015 #99

Just. Plain, Evil. hifiguy May 2015 #9

Did the petition link work for the rest of you? jwirr May 2015 #10

It didn't work for me. Hun Joro May 2015 #11

sorry. try this cali May 2015 #16

Done. 840high May 2015 #23

Thanks...signed. nt City Lights May 2015 #94

Points straight to third way Democrat corruption and why they are killing the party. pa28 May 2015 #12

Bingo Populist_Prole May 2015 #22

+1000000000000000000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #61

This is the truth. woo me with science May 2015 #131

There is the possibility now that this will be a poison pill salib May 2015 #13

Good thing we got them Apple watches project_bluebook May 2015 #14

The older I get........... Paper Roses May 2015 #15

"Soylent Green'' Anyone? YOHABLO May 2015 #19

This message was self-deleted by its author Gman May 2015 #17

Remind me again why we need the TPP? subterranean May 2015 #18

It has electrolytes, it has what workers crave. Dragonfli May 2015 #32

Vietnamese-made Nikes. Or something. SMC22307 May 2015 #55

R's can change TPP?? I thought it was so hard to get countries to trust the negotiations... HereSince1628 May 2015 #20

Did they provide,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #21

They don't have to, read the damn post. /nt Dragonfli May 2015 #34

I read the damn post,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #42

It's in the fast track compromise, you did not read very well. /nt Dragonfli May 2015 #49

yet no one cite it..... seems it not me with a problem,,,, ! Cryptoad May 2015 #71

Denial of what this petition is trying to stop them from voting on Dragonfli May 2015 #74

Lots of people are predicting doom for a miraid of reasons. But no one rhett o rick May 2015 #54

I dont deal in presumptions from any direction. Cryptoad May 2015 #72

Since you seem to believe the TPP is just fine, I would say you DO accept presumptions from Doctor_J May 2015 #75

I have never stated any such belief that TTP is just fine. Cryptoad May 2015 #81

Well the facts are that there is a ton of evidence and lots of experts telling us how much rhett o rick May 2015 #80

funny that nobody can cite any of these so-call facts you say are so numerous . Cryptoad May 2015 #82

You are ignoring the evidence we've seen. You are ignoring what noted ecomonists are rhett o rick May 2015 #105

If you have seen it ,,, share it. Until you show to me,,, i will never believe you have seen anythin Cryptoad May 2015 #116

I am convinced that no amount of evidence would sway your loyalty. rhett o rick May 2015 #117

I have no loyality but i am long enough Cryptoad May 2015 #118

If they think they'll need $700 Million TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #24

What the fuck? marym625 May 2015 #25

Their end of the ' New Deal ' Millionaires don't need medicare . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #27

The whole debacle in the Senate last week marym625 May 2015 #29

I voted for a better world, not a dark vacuum . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #26

What information is this diary providing? Raine1967 May 2015 #31

Why would a person that's posted here for years lie ? orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #37

That is a response to my post that I cannot answer, considering this: Raine1967 May 2015 #40

Like when you were making the lack of a link a " DIARY " ? orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #60

Isn't that what Paul Ryan said about the ACA? George II May 2015 #28

I am against the TPP, but this DKos link doesn't give any links regarding background. Raine1967 May 2015 #30

I noticed the lack of any source also... PosterChild May 2015 #47

Here's more about it from CREDO Action: KoKo May 2015 #67

Damn it! Without looking I know Toomey signed it! If he did, DebJ May 2015 #35

Republicans and Corpracrats) suck, the life out of people, literally. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #36

Saw the petition earlier today, Thespian2 May 2015 #38

And how many Democrats will vote against it? My two CharlotteVale May 2015 #39

No Democrat should vote for cuts to medicare, medicaid, or Social Security. blackspade May 2015 #45

And we are supposed to pretend we don't see them doing this. Jamastiene May 2015 #87

This keeps getting better all the time. BeanMusical May 2015 #46

We get a free trip, one-way fadedrose May 2015 #48

Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast May 2015 #50

"Ridiculous"? It's fucking obscene. (n/t) SMC22307 May 2015 #53

It's Totalitarianism . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #62

K & R !!! WillyT May 2015 #56

What the actual FUCK? AzDar May 2015 #59

Another corperate giveaway ctsnowman May 2015 #63

I was waiting to see if anyone besides me saw the "retraining" bit for what it is Dragonfli May 2015 #70

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They_Live May 2015 #65

If I understand this sulphurdunn May 2015 #68

. stonecutter357 May 2015 #69

I thought that the TPP was supposed to create jobs Mnpaul May 2015 #73

Well I guess since the jobs created will be in offshore sweatshops using child labor Dragonfli May 2015 #78

Pitchforks and torches yet? SnowCritter May 2015 #76

kick woo me with science May 2015 #122

k & r & thanks! n/t wildbilln864 May 2015 #127

Monday kick. SMC22307 May 2015 #128

This just gets worse... blackspade May 2015 #129

kick woo me with science May 2015 #130