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Buzz Clik

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71. No. Sanders will gain points with the liberal/progressive ideologues and no one else.

Sun May 17, 2015, 02:50 PM

May 2015

Clinton is no rookie when it comes to running in the primaries, and Sanders is a total neophyte. If he runs on the strict Democratic socialist idelologies, he will be slaughtered. If he decides to abandon those notions and triangulate (like Clinton) he will be seen as the non-alternative and will still lose.

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Bernie Sanders: I like Hillary Clinton and I don't want to attack her. I'd rather debate the issues. [View all] Cali_Democrat May 2015 OP

And I'm sure Hillary feels likewise YoungDemCA May 2015 #1

"I don't give them Hell," MannyGoldstein May 2015 #2

Some DUers could take a cue from Bernie. Buzz Clik May 2015 #3

Funny, I don't like much of Hillary Clinton's politics or political maneuvering cali May 2015 #8

You don't like Hillary? I had no idea. Buzz Clik May 2015 #14

LOL nt Cali_Democrat May 2015 #18

hey, why bother with facts. I have several ops up. cali May 2015 #35

I've been viciously attacked twice. joshcryer May 2015 #29

I hear you. I like Bernie a lot, but his appeal goes far beyond "not Hillary." Buzz Clik May 2015 #36

I support him. joshcryer May 2015 #39

Thank you Josh! The cliquish crap makes DU suck. bettyellen May 2015 #54

i was ban Bernies group. stonecutter357 May 2015 #59

And, they whine about the BOG.. Hypocrites. I like Bernie but some of his supporters really Cha May 2015 #113

Seems its an on-going thing here... Historic NY May 2015 #125

Hmm... kenfrequed May 2015 #123

That happened to me in the BOG. joshcryer May 2015 #124

Maybe Hillary could take a cue also and come out of her protected cocoon and speak to the issues. 99Forever May 2015 #32

Couple of things. First, it's not like we don't know where she stands on just about everything. Buzz Clik May 2015 #37

Bullshit. 99Forever May 2015 #38

Odds are she'll support it. joshcryer May 2015 #44

No, she won't take a discernible position. Buzz Clik May 2015 #62

And if she does, when at the debates... joshcryer May 2015 #67

No. Sanders will gain points with the liberal/progressive ideologues and no one else. Buzz Clik May 2015 #71

His platform isn't that controversial. joshcryer May 2015 #74

We will see. Buzz Clik May 2015 #76

We will see a bunch of anti-Hillary sentiment if she comes out in favor of the life destroying TPP. Enthusiast May 2015 #81

Response from someone that doesn't care to try to look at what he says isn't going to win... cascadiance May 2015 #91

WTF? Buzz Clik May 2015 #95

Those "idelologies" are actually quite popular, and will grow more so as more people learn of them arcane1 May 2015 #79

Your opinion. We'll see how it turns out when the voting starts. Buzz Clik May 2015 #96

No, Sanders is the one with experience on answering many questions weekly on Thom Hartmann's show... cascadiance May 2015 #88

Sorry to burst your bubble most main stream Democrat voters won't listen to drivel on RT... Historic NY May 2015 #127

Umm... Bernie is NOT on Thom Hartmann's RT show. It is on Free Speech TV, not corporatist DRIVEL... cascadiance May 2015 #129

I'm a Democrat but you seem to forget... Historic NY May 2015 #136

well then... kenfrequed May 2015 #149

"Clinton is no rookie when it comes to running in the primaries" Joe Turner May 2015 #105

Really great to see you took Sanders's plea in the OP to heart. Buzz Clik May 2015 #106

Wrong. Bill Clinton ran as a progressive and won. Unfortunately he governed as a centrist. cui bono May 2015 #108

I was speaking of Hillary, not Bill. Buzz Clik May 2015 #109

I know. I provided proof from history that people can run as progressives and win. cui bono May 2015 #110

Bingo !! INdemo May 2015 #133

She has issued statements; you just don't like what they say. Buzz Clik May 2015 #46

Once again. Bullshit. 99Forever May 2015 #52

If Bernie doesn't affect this election, then no thinking person will ever be able to. erronis May 2015 #55

Not sure who promised that Hillary would be doing a call-in show. Buzz Clik May 2015 #61

Is that what I said? 99Forever May 2015 #70

Hell, I don't know what point you were trying to make. Buzz Clik May 2015 #73

I dont beieve FDR,or Harry Truman or JFK INdemo May 2015 #138

Bernie doesn't do weasel words? Enthusiast May 2015 #83

+1000 MissDeeds May 2015 #53

I don't know where she stands really on the TPP, on the XL pipeline and on charter JDPriestly May 2015 #77

Why must you have an answer on TPP this second? She cannot vote on it. Buzz Clik May 2015 #146

Her view on the XL pipeline certainly is not mine. How flippant can a candidate get! JDPriestly May 2015 #147

Great, please tell me; exactly where does Hillary stand on TPP? Is she NorthCarolina May 2015 #143

High road dpatbrown May 2015 #120

and yet Bernie so much as mentions the problem of corporate money in politics cali May 2015 #4

! MannyGoldstein May 2015 #10

Not at all. Hillary Clinton has also come out against MineralMan May 2015 #11

I guess she selectively avoids talking about McCutcheon case then... cascadiance May 2015 #22

Hillary on McCuthcheon. Dr Hobbitstein May 2015 #24

What percent of her personal income do you think came from large corporations? JDPriestly May 2015 #80

Don't they agree on Citizens United? joshcryer May 2015 #31

I guess he's leaving the negative stuff to random Internet posters. MineralMan May 2015 #5

A lot of DUers think that talking about the issues is a personal attack on Hillary. JDPriestly May 2015 #84

Yes, I understand. MineralMan May 2015 #86

Actually, I do a lot of campaigning come election time. I register voters and talk to JDPriestly May 2015 #92

+1 rbnyc May 2015 #100

He will fight the middle class JonLP24 May 2015 #148

I respect Bernie Sanders for it. lovemydog May 2015 #6

And, guess what?.. Cha May 2015 #114

Hey, at least there's a few of us like that here. lovemydog May 2015 #117

Yeah, it's nice to see kindred spirits! Cha May 2015 #118

Definitely. lovemydog May 2015 #130

I saw this interview.He's a class act. sufrommich May 2015 #7

Bernie is sooo smart.. he doesn't take the bait of the corpmediaheads. And, he has Cha May 2015 #115

Amen, and touché to the dividers. Could not have said it better myself, Senator. Even more reason he has my support as I Fred Sanders May 2015 #9

Its a good move GummyBearz May 2015 #12

Sanders is a good man. hrmjustin May 2015 #13

Hillary should follow his lead Doctor_J May 2015 #41

She is. hrmjustin May 2015 #45

Yes, she should. Enthusiast May 2015 #85

She can't NorthCarolina May 2015 #144

Good luck getting HRC to debate the issues, Senator Doctor_J May 2015 #15

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #17

Please put me on ignore. Agschmid May 2015 #23

Such a clear, manipulative pattern in the corporate messaging. woo me with science May 2015 #50

I'm a Bernie supporter. Agschmid May 2015 #57

There have been hundreds of posts praising Hillary's position on various issues. Buzz Clik May 2015 #66

IMO it's even simpler than that Doctor_J May 2015 #43

^^^THIS!^^^ Ron Green May 2015 #49

"Brilliant strategy. Also extremely dishonest." woo me with science May 2015 #51

This is pure delusion: Buzz Clik May 2015 #68

So tell me, what about YOU qualifies you to make such a claim? NorthCarolina May 2015 #155

It's opinion. Buzz Clik May 2015 #156

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast May 2015 #90

-10000000 Buzz Clik May 2015 #65

You nailed it, woo me with science! Enthusiast May 2015 #89

Clinton will have no choice. joshcryer May 2015 #33

Contrarian here (one who supports Sanders currently). There's a reason why KingCharlemagne May 2015 #16

Where do you live? Where I live, negative campaigning fails hard and fast. A worthless tactic. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #19

If negative campaigning didn't work, politicans wouldn't use it. It's usually KingCharlemagne May 2015 #28

It's not attacking her LWolf May 2015 #20

Good man FLPanhandle May 2015 #21

This is the thing that makes Bernie electrifying. He DOES NOT get sidetracked into Nay May 2015 #25

This is why Penn from Penn & Teller supports him. joshcryer May 2015 #47

This message was self-deleted by its author joshcryer May 2015 #48

As if the people are the ones that matter. Thank you sir. n/t jtuck004 May 2015 #26

Not attacking Hillary would cut down on 90% of posts from 3 or 4 DUers. onehandle May 2015 #27

^^THIS^^ BumRushDaShow May 2015 #30

And Hillary taking stances on issues would cut down 90% of those posts Doctor_J May 2015 #40

Oh, how you nailed it. And they're the same ones screaming about their unimpeachable Number23 May 2015 #103

Yeah, wonder what Bernie would think of those who post RW sites to attack Hillary and puff Cha May 2015 #116

More than 3 or 4 unfortunately. This is another interesting test of his leadership ability. stevenleser May 2015 #121

They don't seem to realize that ... JoePhilly May 2015 #152

Hopefully, she'll reveal her positions on some of the issues debated by that time. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #34

This message was self-deleted by its author Romeo.lima333 May 2015 #42

Bernie has class. nt SunSeeker May 2015 #56

hmm, care to name any of these Bernie supporters who aren't addressing the issues? MisterP May 2015 #58

That's not his point -- he wants the attacks to stop. Buzz Clik May 2015 #64

I don't think some of his "supporters" have gotten the word. MADem May 2015 #60

If the message was received, it was ignored. Even on this thread. Buzz Clik May 2015 #63

I think it's great--if they aren't really WITH Bernie, they will ignore him, and then we'll know! MADem May 2015 #69

+1 Buzz Clik May 2015 #72

The reason it seems like attacks is because most of Hillary's views imnew May 2015 #93

K&R. JDPriestly May 2015 #75

Rec'd for Bernie once again telling the truth, this time directly to the media excuses sabrina 1 May 2015 #78

very good advice kpete May 2015 #82

If he gains traction and the gap closes , Playing nice against Hillary isn't going to work imnew May 2015 #87

Meanwhile, the Moonie Times claims he's attacking her. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #94

Wow Bernie supporters workinclasszero May 2015 #97

+1,000. Bernie nailed it. You got a point, too. The stakes are too high for RFing. n/t freshwest May 2015 #98

Way to go, Senator Sanders! Keep it up. :D nt ladyVet May 2015 #99

I wish they would too.. AuntPatsy May 2015 #101

Good idea, Bernie mvd May 2015 #102

Hopefully the supporters of both candidates will heed this good advice villager May 2015 #104

You can't debate the issues with someone who steadfastly refuses to give concrete answers on them. Warren DeMontague May 2015 #107

"I wish some of Bernie's supporters would heed this advice." MFrohike May 2015 #111

I had a feeling Bernie felt this way.. Some of his supporters will not do one thing to change Cha May 2015 #112

I'm supporting Hillary, but... MarianJack May 2015 #119

classy guy heaven05 May 2015 #122

Too bad his supporters.... MaggieD May 2015 #126

Coming from one of the most divisive DUers I have ever seen here. .. Trajan May 2015 #131

I'm divisive? MaggieD May 2015 #132

I don't know, I welcome a lot of the criticism which goes on here. redruddyred May 2015 #135

Screeds full of right wing talking points MaggieD May 2015 #137

accusing anyone disagreeing with hillary of being a 'tool of the right' redruddyred May 2015 #139

And I am not doing that MaggieD May 2015 #141

I haven't seen any of those redruddyred May 2015 #142

+1 Capt. Obvious May 2015 #154

count me out then. redruddyred May 2015 #134

Nice try... MrMickeysMom May 2015 #153

I also wish that Hill's supporters would cease with the unelectable bs in almost every Bernie post peacebird May 2015 #128

I would love to see discussion of issues BainsBane May 2015 #140

I agree with Bernie re TPP. JEB May 2015 #145

Gotta love a man who can say this with a straight face and mean it 100% madokie May 2015 #150

He doesn't need to attack her, just as she doesn't need to attack him. NCTraveler May 2015 #151