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Pre-emptive strike: Outlaw bikers are NOT "good guys with guns." derby378 May 2015 #1
But aren't they responsible gun owners? truebluegreen May 2015 #10
They're "one-percenters" derby378 May 2015 #71
What's the "best known example" of the other 99? jberryhill May 2015 #111
There are many sarisataka May 2015 #121
Offhand, I've seen various veteran's biker clubs going through Texas derby378 May 2015 #122
I guess that is about right. Xyzse May 2015 #81
Hard to argue with that derby378 May 2015 #83
That's good to hear. Xyzse May 2015 #84
damn. I hope it is their own members that are dead, not bystanders.....nt ellenrr May 2015 #2
I'm worried. Twin Peaks is a "Sports type restaurant" (think Hooters with TVs) ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #5
hooters has tvs snooper2 May 2015 #141
Clearly those who died were not carrying guns for self-protection. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #3
Actually, knife deaths are OK. It's those Gunz!, right Blinkie? Eleanors38 May 2015 #7
when we have tens of thousands of knife deaths each year dsc May 2015 #44
That's just the problem, dsc. You don't worry about knife deaths.... Eleanors38 May 2015 #92
What's wrong with culture war? Matrosov May 2015 #145
Plenty, if the strategy you use not only fails, but is actually counterproductive friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #147
Good luck with that. I suggest you leave this site and confront them directly.nt Eleanors38 May 2015 #149
It is guns that are the problem. Other countries have a MUCH LOWER violent Exilednight May 2015 #69
Join the discussion in GCRKBA and you might get a more reasonable outlook on our culture... Eleanors38 May 2015 #89
Hope no innocents got caught in the cross fire. NotoriousRBG May 2015 #4
I prefer the term "feral hominids." Jackpine Radical May 2015 #6
How is this not breaking news? malaise May 2015 #14
Ho hum, another day in 'murika... land of the free... Arugula Latte May 2015 #16
They were white so there's no 24/7 cable coverage of the violence and . . . brush May 2015 #109
Bingo! winetourdriver May 2015 #127
You win the thread malaise May 2015 #136
If they were AfAm then we would be having some fun around here NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #130
I haven't got a clear fix on the race(s) involved. Bet there are some violent felons among them. Eleanors38 May 2015 #8
Looks like all bikers. Adsos Letter May 2015 #12
How will FUX cover this malaise May 2015 #9
I'd take "out of this country." Arugula Latte May 2015 #17
We have even more senseless shootings per capita malaise May 2015 #18
Updated story says all the casualties are bikers missingthebigdog May 2015 #11
. d_r May 2015 #19
Sounds like Police LIHOP. Octafish May 2015 #72
How do you figure LIHOP is the police tried to talk the restaurant out of the event? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #73
When you have cops gathered outside just in case trouble develops. Octafish May 2015 #88
Cops attend many events in case there is trouble. Some have trouble, some don't. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #90
That makes sense. Octafish May 2015 #91
Dude, I'm the last person on this forum that could be accused of being a booster for the cops. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #94
LIHOP, like in 9-11? Octafish May 2015 #99
The OP is not about 9/11. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #101
So why bring it up to smear me as a conspiracy theorist? Octafish May 2015 #102
Because in Post #72 you wrote, "Sounds like police LIHOP." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #104
Yeah, so? Octafish May 2015 #106
You can write what you want -- the same as I can and Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #108
LIHOP CT-spreading? Octafish May 2015 #112
They didn't just 'stand around' B2G May 2015 #113
Good. They could've saved everybody's life. Octafish May 2015 #118
What right did they have to do that? nt B2G May 2015 #119
Well if you simply ignore sarisataka May 2015 #120
Same right the party store owner had to host the thing. Octafish May 2015 #123
Ah, no. The police can't just prohibit gatherings. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #125
They have a right to assemble. tammywammy May 2015 #126
No. That's what you said. Octafish May 2015 #128
A court injunction? On what basis? tammywammy May 2015 #131
Darned if I know. Octafish May 2015 #135
Violence can be very sudden. How do you know the cops stood around doing nothing? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #124
I'm proud to bring 9-11 into the discussion. I'm also proud to write about it. Octafish May 2015 #129
"I wasn't there." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #132
As I sourced where all the information came from, no. Octafish May 2015 #134
The OP isn't about JFK, fake moon landings or yetis either. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #139
Hiding where? Hiding what? I think I answered everyone who asked me something on this thread. Octafish May 2015 #140
"I think I answered everyone who asked me something on this thread." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #143
Octafish hides behind ''cutesy, deliberately obtuse non-posts.'' Octafish May 2015 #144
Hilarious sub thread! zappaman May 2015 #146
because everything is a conspiracy snooper2 May 2015 #142
I applaud your effort sarisataka May 2015 #13
So you don't think guns make it much easier to kill people? nt Logical May 2015 #22
Are those stabbed sarisataka May 2015 #23
Answer my question. nt Logical May 2015 #30
Of course sarisataka May 2015 #31
They are just as dead. But if only knifes had been involved I bet 9 would not of died....... Logical May 2015 #33
My viewpoint is sarisataka May 2015 #37
We agree on most of this I assume. I agree, we need to address violence. I bet if the UK had the.... Logical May 2015 #41
I agree sarisataka May 2015 #45
then why is our country dsc May 2015 #46
If you take per capita rates sarisataka May 2015 #48
That's actually not true. The gun homicides are what make us #1. And by a large margin. DanTex May 2015 #49
If wikipedia can be trusted sarisataka May 2015 #54
The UK has one of the lowest rates in Europe. DanTex May 2015 #61
I realize I was improperly sarisataka May 2015 #63
I don't begin to believe that is true dsc May 2015 #53
White privilege. JaneyVee May 2015 #15
Here's a free clue.... Oktober May 2015 #64
Here in NYC we have The Mongols, none are. JaneyVee May 2015 #70
Another clue ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #75
Information on the Bandidos club: bullwinkle428 May 2015 #85
And yet there are still pro gun nuts out there that believe ANY gun Exilednight May 2015 #20
Short of bans and confiscation, what would have prevented this? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #28
My ideas are by no means unique, but the pro 2A crowd always finds Exilednight May 2015 #66
So if someone stole my car and killed someone else, I would go to jail? hack89 May 2015 #74
Only guns. Exilednight May 2015 #79
I didn't think you were serious. hack89 May 2015 #80
Mandatory insurance would be a gift beyond imagination to the NRA hack89 May 2015 #76
NRA is already in the insurance business. Hangingon May 2015 #86
Liability insurance for guns is a pipe dream hack89 May 2015 #87
We should ban concealed carry Travis_0004 May 2015 #62
You're right, it should be banned. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #67
This message was self-deleted by its author Logical May 2015 #21
I find it interesting dumbcat May 2015 #24
Bandidos and Cossacks and affiliates nt Crabby Appleton May 2015 #26
From the pics, looks like the Scimitars, too...nt GReedDiamond May 2015 #29
Police deliberately did not identify the clubs to avoid giving them publicity Ex Lurker May 2015 #52
Dailymail has some pics Crabby Appleton May 2015 #25
Don't you feel safer... yallerdawg May 2015 #27
Obviously we must blame country music for destroying the white community. JaneyVee May 2015 #32
White privilege, country music... is that the best you can do? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #34
I could mention CVS. JaneyVee May 2015 #36
And it would be just as pointless as the rest of your posts in this thread. NobodyHere May 2015 #40
Are you paying me? JaneyVee May 2015 #42
"White privilege, country music, and wild wild women." There, I fixed it. yellowcanine May 2015 #77
:-) etherealtruth May 2015 #35
Among the minutia, are we losing site of the bigger issue? Glitterati May 2015 #38
Urban gangs have been killing each other for decades hack89 May 2015 #56
And, yet, this spilled into sleepy, little Waco Glitterati May 2015 #57
They were criminal gangs shooting it out hack89 May 2015 #58
"sleepy little Waco?" You don't know Waco. Eleanors38 May 2015 #97
Any moment now I'm sure... Oktober May 2015 #65
Lots of these are older men--not young kids......Pic.... riversedge May 2015 #39
Not just guns and knives, either - Aerows May 2015 #43
I'm lost. The cops WATCHED it? What? Glitterati May 2015 #51
Your guess is as good as mine Aerows May 2015 #55
The cops were outside. HooptieWagon May 2015 #59
Shooting started OUTSIDE Glitterati May 2015 #60
Yes, but the FIGHT started inside. HooptieWagon May 2015 #68
I'm happy no cops were gunned down. tammywammy May 2015 #78
One report has it the police shot some gang members after these thugs started... Eleanors38 May 2015 #110
This is crazy Gothmog May 2015 #47
Good to know that easy access to guns is working out ... 99Forever May 2015 #50
It's working out great in Chicago too B2G May 2015 #93
What's your point? 99Forever May 2015 #95
That this isn't a Texas problem B2G May 2015 #96
Right... 99Forever May 2015 #105
Do you really think these gang bangers in Chicago B2G May 2015 #107
I could give a shit less about how. 99Forever May 2015 #114
Well you should care about how they are getting their guns B2G May 2015 #115
Straw man much? 99Forever May 2015 #116
The restaurant management has a lot to answer for here.... yellowcanine May 2015 #82
The restaurant just lost it's franchise, yanked by Twin Peaks corporate. kwassa May 2015 #133
Their liquor license was suspended for a week. yellowcanine May 2015 #137
Just luck civilians weren't killed...this was a mall type complex Historic NY May 2015 #98
This sounds like the climax of one of the biker movies from the 60's Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #100
60's? lonestarnot May 2015 #117
In the 60's and early 70's there was a genre of Outlaw Biker Movies. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #148
192 to be charged shenmue May 2015 #103
Sounds like a normal weekend in Chicago n/t madville May 2015 #138
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