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Bonobo

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8. There are about 3 or 4 people pushing this stupid and false narrative of "trickle down"

Sun May 17, 2015, 09:15 PM

May 2015

You are one of them, arguing against a massive and flimsy straw man.

You try to use the phrase "trickle down" to tie Bernie Sanders, the most Progressive (on Social AND Economic issues) that I have seen in recent years, to a Reaganesque economic policy.

I'm sorry, but it is insane and dishonest.

The false narrative that there is a rift between the advocacy for social issues and economic issues is becoming increasingly hallucinatory and feverish.

In reality, a true Progressive is one who fights for both equally and gains in one, without the other, are not what any Progressive would be satisfied with.

We have one declared candidate with a strong history of advocacy. Why anyone is trying to tie him to "trickle down" economics is nearly unfathomable. It is very disappointing and I hope that it is as transparently untrue to everyone as it is to me.

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This I do know. [View all] sheshe2 May 2015 OP

Nice Op.. AuntPatsy May 2015 #1

Thank you AuntPatsy! sheshe2 May 2015 #7

+ 10000000 from another member of the"most loathed group on DU." Hoyt May 2015 #2

Told you the other day. sheshe2 May 2015 #4

What is the most loathed group on DU? redstateblues May 2015 #28

Our sitting Democratic President. sheshe2 May 2015 #45

I'm hung up on him too fadedrose May 2015 #84

+ 1 from another member of the group so many love to hate. greatauntoftriplets May 2015 #3

GAOT~ sheshe2 May 2015 #5

Luv ya, too, sheshe. greatauntoftriplets May 2015 #6

There are about 3 or 4 people pushing this stupid and false narrative of "trickle down" Bonobo May 2015 #8

Take a breath. sheshe2 May 2015 #10

Don't bother with this! n/t freshwest May 2015 #23

Sigh~ sheshe2 May 2015 #125

Can you link such a DU post? Who on DU is saying this 99th_Monkey May 2015 #24

DO NOT PLAY GAMES WITH ME. sheshe2 May 2015 #32

Your own advice: "Take a breath." nt Bonobo May 2015 #34

yup. nt seabeyond May 2015 #35

you~ sheshe2 May 2015 #43

LOL! SMC22307 May 2015 #40

Nobody, that I've seen, is saying this MannyGoldstein May 2015 #38

Well ... YOU once posted the following line (before seld deleting it) ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #67

Unlikely MannyGoldstein May 2015 #68

Oh boy! ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #95

*You* make BS accusations and *I* should just stop MannyGoldstein May 2015 #98

Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #101

+1. and since i do not see lesson learned, i will simply remember to hit bookmark, hence forth. seabeyond May 2015 #99

he also used the word minor. that social is a minor issue. but, he wont own that either. seabeyond May 2015 #71

Link or slink. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #72

i have the conviction, i can own what i put on du.... ;) . seabeyond May 2015 #74

So you have nothing. MannyGoldstein May 2015 #75

i do have my integrity. seabeyond May 2015 #76

Making nasty accusations without proof MannyGoldstein May 2015 #77

you have a star. put your name, 'minor issue' key word in message text, GD, a month ago. the post seabeyond May 2015 #79

I even checked back to March 1st MannyGoldstein May 2015 #81

Lie. Marr May 2015 #85

this is not a conversation. only a post of insults. really, .... the same names. repeatedly. seabeyond May 2015 #88

That's an odd comment for you to make, considering just one post above mine you're making Marr May 2015 #94

owning ones words is not an insult. i stand by what i say. i do not have a probably owning seabeyond May 2015 #96

You aren't 'owning your words', you just made an accusation you can't back up... Marr May 2015 #104

because i cannot search and find does not mean it was not said. hence, depending on seabeyond May 2015 #105

Then use google. Marr May 2015 #107

That poster is not here for honest reasons and it is very well known. Just leave their comments. NCTraveler May 2015 #90

ya. i do not even play in his threads anymore. i have read him on DI. i mean. he tells us seabeyond May 2015 #92

sheeeit, he tells us what he thinks about us in the mens room. nt seabeyond May 2015 #93

Thanks~ sheshe2 May 2015 #119

This... SMC22307 May 2015 #11

issues is becoming increasingly hallucinatory and feverish. seabeyond May 2015 #15

Only in seabeyond's world would you think point proven. SMC22307 May 2015 #19

You may not be here 24/7 yet it is here 24/7. sheshe2 May 2015 #37

Cough up the proof requested in #24. SMC22307 May 2015 #44

Do your own search. I work too. nt sheshe2 May 2015 #47

Translated: You got nothing. SMC22307 May 2015 #50

Trust me.... sheshe2 May 2015 #53

Funny you should mention tag teams, very funny. nt sheshe2 May 2015 #120

i dont know who you are. i have never read or paid attention to you until late saturday night when seabeyond May 2015 #83

. Bobbie Jo May 2015 #89

omg, i know. i am laughing out loud. ya. meh.... lol. nt seabeyond May 2015 #91

They sure are focused on you, and not in a good way, sea. sheshe2 May 2015 #122

LOL. +1 n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #20

omg~ sheshe2 May 2015 #25

I thought it was your arthritis acting up? SMC22307 May 2015 #26

ha ha, woman seabeyond May 2015 #36

sea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 May 2015 #39

no there is a rift hfojvt May 2015 #48

Once you open the door to wealth, there IS a tendency to want to close it. True. Bonobo May 2015 #51

it isn't just rich people though hfojvt May 2015 #60

Weirdly, they've now segued into 'if you care about economic issues... Marr May 2015 #108

no one. has EVER said that. fuck.... seabeyond May 2015 #110

Oh, some of have most certainly implied it. Marr May 2015 #114

implied.... lol... lmfao. ya. uh hu seabeyond May 2015 #117

What is insanely and dishonest is ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #18

Lol~ Boom! sheshe2 May 2015 #27

It's an attempt to paint Hillary as the more socially progressive of the two candidates. Maedhros May 2015 #31

Beneath the surface is an implicit claim that he is just another "white male". Bonobo May 2015 #33

It's not that far beneath the surface. n/t lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #127

Economic populists can (and have) shoved social issues under the bus. joshcryer May 2015 #49

Is access to abortion social or economic? Bonobo May 2015 #52

This is where we get into the "which is which" debate. joshcryer May 2015 #55

I disagree. Bonobo May 2015 #56

The rich don't play by the rules. joshcryer May 2015 #57

It is a false dichotomy. Bonobo May 2015 #59

I consider it a failed attack. joshcryer May 2015 #61

It is not just about abortion. sheshe2 May 2015 #62

I'm sure Bernie and all of DU agrees with that. nt Bonobo May 2015 #63

DUrec. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #103

Another BOGGER rec treestar May 2015 #9

Don't ever give up. We need you, lots of nasties here sometimes but I consider the source. Thinkingabout May 2015 #12

K & R. n/t FSogol May 2015 #13

I will not sit down and I will not shut up. and you need us, more than we need you.... cause when seabeyond May 2015 #14

sea. sheshe2 May 2015 #41

the TPP is the *essence* of sitting down and shutting up MisterP May 2015 #16

Apple Sauce! ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #21

I see you. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #17

... sheshe2 May 2015 #42

You're one of the best. BOGger rec. Hekate May 2015 #22

HeKate~ I sheshe2 May 2015 #121

BOG'r Rec. Raine1967 May 2015 #29

Freshwest (another BOGger, oh noeeeeess!!1) is the one that I first saw use the phrase "trickle Number23 May 2015 #64

Good OP Gothmog May 2015 #30

Nice cross you nailed yourself to. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #46

I do believe you should read DU. sheshe2 May 2015 #54

Dayum. SMC22307 May 2015 #58

Good for you, she.. there's so much Light to be basking in! Cha May 2015 #65

Love this pic! See the love there! n/t freshwest May 2015 #69

Thanks for that wonderful picture, Cha! sheshe2 May 2015 #109

And, now the President is on Twitter.. "Dad, husband, and the 44th President of the United States".. Cha May 2015 #123

Gotta love him! sheshe2 May 2015 #126

Gotta love him, indeed! Cha May 2015 #128

I don't understand how it's so difficult to grasp that social justice and economic cali May 2015 #66

you can have economic without social. you have been given absolute easy to understand examples. why seabeyond May 2015 #73

Is that poor baby being screwed out of the full benefit of her class privilege because some of TheKentuckian May 2015 #131

pretty damn nasty. be proud seabeyond May 2015 #132

What was nasty? Maybe the headline seems harsh but in context that is what is real. TheKentuckian May 2015 #144

Birthday parties? Seriously? Now we're supposed to stress about birthday parties? NaturalHigh May 2015 #135

you people are unbelievable. this is like so fuckin' offensive on a fuckin progressive board. seabeyond May 2015 #137

check out the subthread. how dare a black man do well financially, and still have the audacity seabeyond May 2015 #138

K&R MineralMan May 2015 #70

Good on you sheshe CanonRay May 2015 #78

Beautiful she! mcar May 2015 #80

"You know that! Stop pushing it." NaturalHigh May 2015 #82

and here you are again. yet next, you will be saying, why dont you see i am your friend. seabeyond May 2015 #86

Well hey there, Seabeyond... NaturalHigh May 2015 #113

Meh Bobbie Jo May 2015 #116

"Seriously?" NaturalHigh May 2015 #118

No, you missed the point. sheshe2 May 2015 #97

No, I'm pretty sure I got the point. NaturalHigh May 2015 #115

and no one wants you silenced but you are advised that equality does not excuse economic injustice TheKentuckian May 2015 #134

They go hand in hand. sheshe2 May 2015 #136

Fuckin A! TheKentuckian May 2015 #142

And just to let you know, the alerter on this post got smacked GoneOffShore May 2015 #140

I know they do but I appreciate the heads up. What a lackluster and sad effort. TheKentuckian May 2015 #143

I think I am in good standing with the group you mentioned. NCTraveler May 2015 #87

I'm right there beside you madokie May 2015 #100

Damn Good Post! JustAnotherGen May 2015 #102

Upon Re-reading ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #106

Lol~ sheshe2 May 2015 #124

I've been moving to more non political posts and particularly OPs on DU Fumesucker May 2015 #129

Well said. GoneOffShore May 2015 #141

Without a doubt, Photo Group IS the best group of people on DU. Blue_In_AK May 2015 #147

K & R Scurrilous May 2015 #111

Great post! MaggieD May 2015 #112

The pushback against the ideology that pretends it is fine to ignore or even oppose economic justice TheKentuckian May 2015 #130

kick Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #133

"your life can change on a dime" NaturalHigh May 2015 #139

The future for all children is all that matters. For the sake of them we cannot lose hope. raouldukelives May 2015 #145

People keep saying BOGGERs want GD to look like the BOG. ucrdem May 2015 #146