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sarisataka

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48. If you take per capita rates

Sun May 17, 2015, 09:24 PM

May 2015

and strike all gun related homicides, we are still easily at the top.
Our society is more violent with or without guns.

Focus on reducing violence and gun violence will continue to drop

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9 dead in motorcyle gang gunfight at Texas restaurant [View all] ScreamingMeemie May 2015 OP

Pre-emptive strike: Outlaw bikers are NOT "good guys with guns." derby378 May 2015 #1

But aren't they responsible gun owners? truebluegreen May 2015 #10

They're "one-percenters" derby378 May 2015 #71

What's the "best known example" of the other 99? jberryhill May 2015 #111

There are many sarisataka May 2015 #121

Offhand, I've seen various veteran's biker clubs going through Texas derby378 May 2015 #122

I guess that is about right. Xyzse May 2015 #81

Hard to argue with that derby378 May 2015 #83

That's good to hear. Xyzse May 2015 #84

damn. I hope it is their own members that are dead, not bystanders.....nt ellenrr May 2015 #2

I'm worried. Twin Peaks is a "Sports type restaurant" (think Hooters with TVs) ScreamingMeemie May 2015 #5

hooters has tvs snooper2 May 2015 #141

Clearly those who died were not carrying guns for self-protection. Binkie The Clown May 2015 #3

Actually, knife deaths are OK. It's those Gunz!, right Blinkie? Eleanors38 May 2015 #7

when we have tens of thousands of knife deaths each year dsc May 2015 #44

That's just the problem, dsc. You don't worry about knife deaths.... Eleanors38 May 2015 #92

What's wrong with culture war? Matrosov May 2015 #145

Plenty, if the strategy you use not only fails, but is actually counterproductive friendly_iconoclast May 2015 #147

Good luck with that. I suggest you leave this site and confront them directly.nt Eleanors38 May 2015 #149

It is guns that are the problem. Other countries have a MUCH LOWER violent Exilednight May 2015 #69

Join the discussion in GCRKBA and you might get a more reasonable outlook on our culture... Eleanors38 May 2015 #89

Hope no innocents got caught in the cross fire. NotoriousRBG May 2015 #4

I prefer the term "feral hominids." Jackpine Radical May 2015 #6

How is this not breaking news? malaise May 2015 #14

Ho hum, another day in 'murika... land of the free... Arugula Latte May 2015 #16

They were white so there's no 24/7 cable coverage of the violence and . . . brush May 2015 #109

Bingo! winetourdriver May 2015 #127

You win the thread malaise May 2015 #136

If they were AfAm then we would be having some fun around here NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #130

I haven't got a clear fix on the race(s) involved. Bet there are some violent felons among them. Eleanors38 May 2015 #8

Looks like all bikers. Adsos Letter May 2015 #12

How will FUX cover this malaise May 2015 #9

I'd take "out of this country." Arugula Latte May 2015 #17

We have even more senseless shootings per capita malaise May 2015 #18

Updated story says all the casualties are bikers missingthebigdog May 2015 #11

. d_r May 2015 #19

Sounds like Police LIHOP. Octafish May 2015 #72

How do you figure LIHOP is the police tried to talk the restaurant out of the event? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #73

When you have cops gathered outside just in case trouble develops. Octafish May 2015 #88

Cops attend many events in case there is trouble. Some have trouble, some don't. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #90

That makes sense. Octafish May 2015 #91

Dude, I'm the last person on this forum that could be accused of being a booster for the cops. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #94

LIHOP, like in 9-11? Octafish May 2015 #99

The OP is not about 9/11. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #101

So why bring it up to smear me as a conspiracy theorist? Octafish May 2015 #102

Because in Post #72 you wrote, "Sounds like police LIHOP." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #104

Yeah, so? Octafish May 2015 #106

You can write what you want -- the same as I can and Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #108

LIHOP CT-spreading? Octafish May 2015 #112

They didn't just 'stand around' B2G May 2015 #113

Good. They could've saved everybody's life. Octafish May 2015 #118

What right did they have to do that? nt B2G May 2015 #119

Well if you simply ignore sarisataka May 2015 #120

Same right the party store owner had to host the thing. Octafish May 2015 #123

Ah, no. The police can't just prohibit gatherings. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #125

They have a right to assemble. tammywammy May 2015 #126

No. That's what you said. Octafish May 2015 #128

A court injunction? On what basis? tammywammy May 2015 #131

Darned if I know. Octafish May 2015 #135

Violence can be very sudden. How do you know the cops stood around doing nothing? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #124

I'm proud to bring 9-11 into the discussion. I'm also proud to write about it. Octafish May 2015 #129

"I wasn't there." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #132

As I sourced where all the information came from, no. Octafish May 2015 #134

The OP isn't about JFK, fake moon landings or yetis either. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #139

Hiding where? Hiding what? I think I answered everyone who asked me something on this thread. Octafish May 2015 #140

"I think I answered everyone who asked me something on this thread." Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #143

Octafish hides behind ''cutesy, deliberately obtuse non-posts.'' Octafish May 2015 #144

Hilarious sub thread! zappaman May 2015 #146

because everything is a conspiracy snooper2 May 2015 #142

I applaud your effort sarisataka May 2015 #13

So you don't think guns make it much easier to kill people? nt Logical May 2015 #22

Are those stabbed sarisataka May 2015 #23

Answer my question. nt Logical May 2015 #30

Of course sarisataka May 2015 #31

They are just as dead. But if only knifes had been involved I bet 9 would not of died....... Logical May 2015 #33

My viewpoint is sarisataka May 2015 #37

We agree on most of this I assume. I agree, we need to address violence. I bet if the UK had the.... Logical May 2015 #41

I agree sarisataka May 2015 #45

then why is our country dsc May 2015 #46

If you take per capita rates sarisataka May 2015 #48

That's actually not true. The gun homicides are what make us #1. And by a large margin. DanTex May 2015 #49

If wikipedia can be trusted sarisataka May 2015 #54

The UK has one of the lowest rates in Europe. DanTex May 2015 #61

I realize I was improperly sarisataka May 2015 #63

I don't begin to believe that is true dsc May 2015 #53

White privilege. JaneyVee May 2015 #15

Here's a free clue.... Oktober May 2015 #64

Here in NYC we have The Mongols, none are. JaneyVee May 2015 #70

Another clue ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #75

Information on the Bandidos club: bullwinkle428 May 2015 #85

And yet there are still pro gun nuts out there that believe ANY gun Exilednight May 2015 #20

Short of bans and confiscation, what would have prevented this? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #28

My ideas are by no means unique, but the pro 2A crowd always finds Exilednight May 2015 #66

So if someone stole my car and killed someone else, I would go to jail? hack89 May 2015 #74

Only guns. Exilednight May 2015 #79

I didn't think you were serious. hack89 May 2015 #80

Mandatory insurance would be a gift beyond imagination to the NRA hack89 May 2015 #76

NRA is already in the insurance business. Hangingon May 2015 #86

Liability insurance for guns is a pipe dream hack89 May 2015 #87

We should ban concealed carry Travis_0004 May 2015 #62

You're right, it should be banned. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author Logical May 2015 #21

I find it interesting dumbcat May 2015 #24

Bandidos and Cossacks and affiliates nt Crabby Appleton May 2015 #26

From the pics, looks like the Scimitars, too...nt GReedDiamond May 2015 #29

Police deliberately did not identify the clubs to avoid giving them publicity Ex Lurker May 2015 #52

Dailymail has some pics Crabby Appleton May 2015 #25

Don't you feel safer... yallerdawg May 2015 #27

Obviously we must blame country music for destroying the white community. JaneyVee May 2015 #32

White privilege, country music... is that the best you can do? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #34

I could mention CVS. JaneyVee May 2015 #36

And it would be just as pointless as the rest of your posts in this thread. NobodyHere May 2015 #40

Are you paying me? JaneyVee May 2015 #42

"White privilege, country music, and wild wild women." There, I fixed it. yellowcanine May 2015 #77

:-) etherealtruth May 2015 #35

Among the minutia, are we losing site of the bigger issue? Glitterati May 2015 #38

Urban gangs have been killing each other for decades hack89 May 2015 #56

And, yet, this spilled into sleepy, little Waco Glitterati May 2015 #57

They were criminal gangs shooting it out hack89 May 2015 #58

"sleepy little Waco?" You don't know Waco. Eleanors38 May 2015 #97

Any moment now I'm sure... Oktober May 2015 #65

Lots of these are older men--not young kids......Pic.... riversedge May 2015 #39

Not just guns and knives, either - Aerows May 2015 #43

I'm lost. The cops WATCHED it? What? Glitterati May 2015 #51

Your guess is as good as mine Aerows May 2015 #55

The cops were outside. HooptieWagon May 2015 #59

Shooting started OUTSIDE Glitterati May 2015 #60

Yes, but the FIGHT started inside. HooptieWagon May 2015 #68

I'm happy no cops were gunned down. tammywammy May 2015 #78

One report has it the police shot some gang members after these thugs started... Eleanors38 May 2015 #110

This is crazy Gothmog May 2015 #47

Good to know that easy access to guns is working out ... 99Forever May 2015 #50

It's working out great in Chicago too B2G May 2015 #93

What's your point? 99Forever May 2015 #95

That this isn't a Texas problem B2G May 2015 #96

Right... 99Forever May 2015 #105

Do you really think these gang bangers in Chicago B2G May 2015 #107

I could give a shit less about how. 99Forever May 2015 #114

Well you should care about how they are getting their guns B2G May 2015 #115

Straw man much? 99Forever May 2015 #116

The restaurant management has a lot to answer for here.... yellowcanine May 2015 #82

The restaurant just lost it's franchise, yanked by Twin Peaks corporate. kwassa May 2015 #133

Their liquor license was suspended for a week. yellowcanine May 2015 #137

Just luck civilians weren't killed...this was a mall type complex Historic NY May 2015 #98

This sounds like the climax of one of the biker movies from the 60's Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #100

60's? lonestarnot May 2015 #117

In the 60's and early 70's there was a genre of Outlaw Biker Movies. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #148

192 to be charged shenmue May 2015 #103

Sounds like a normal weekend in Chicago n/t madville May 2015 #138