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TM99

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19. Lies about incubators from the first Bush Administration

Sun May 17, 2015, 10:45 PM

May 2015

sent me and my friends to war in Iraq the first time.

I sure as hell wasn't going to fall for that shit a second time. And anyone old enough and smart enough saw the parallels and knew the truth even as the lies flowed out of their mouths.

Clinton made the decision to ignore the lies for one or both of these reasons. She is a hawk and a Neo-con and agrees with that agenda, as her tenure at State does demonstrate. She has been focused on becoming president for decades and every move is calculated. She did not want to look weak on terror or be one of those damned anti-war peacenik hippy leftists!

It is cognitive dissonance and willful self-delusion. If they admit the truth, then they admit she is not the anointed one.

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Lay your cards on the table... [View all] kentuck May 2015 OP

I'll go further. It was a scam and a con game that blew up. immoderate May 2015 #1

Yes. And Hillary fell for it. So did all the news media, or almost all. JDPriestly May 2015 #2

Somehow, I doubt Hillary fell for it. Hoppy May 2015 #7

Probably true. SusanCalvin May 2015 #16

Politically smart... bvar22 May 2015 #53

Oh. I didn't say it was good. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #56

Hillary for sure knew it was bullshit right from the start. Enthusiast May 2015 #32

Hillary killed Abe Lincoln too... she's the evil and we know it!! :rolleyes: uponit7771 May 2015 #49

Hans Blix reports there is no evidence of material for weapons build-up. Hoppy May 2015 #50

Killing MLK, that's what she was doing :more rolleyes:, again.. .she loses wisdom points on ... uponit7771 May 2015 #52

Why are you comparing her actual vote and support for the war to complete and heinous fantasy of TheKentuckian May 2015 #57

The news media got a lot of help believing it -- in the form of envelopes rocktivity May 2015 #23

Hillary did not fall for it. Enthusiast May 2015 #33

Then she voted against her conscience and that is a terrible thing to think about. JDPriestly May 2015 #55

^ I doubt many at higher levels really fell for it - TBF May 2015 #5

I will say this--My wife met Ron Kind, our Turd-wayish Dem Representative Jackpine Radical May 2015 #15

Most of them had to know better. Enthusiast May 2015 #31

They started to believe their own propaganda. Enthusiast May 2015 #30

Although the $$$ (oil) is always a big part TBF May 2015 #42

k&r... spanone May 2015 #3

the narrative is a bit like that old nursery rhyme "The House That Jack Built" grasswire May 2015 #4

Not cruel and brutal. SusanCalvin May 2015 #17

A Chain of Lies - Original Post from Aug-31-2004 Xipe Totec May 2015 #6

Thanks... kentuck May 2015 #8

Thanks for the link. Excellent info. JEB May 2015 #58

I think the warmongers got exactly what they wanted. delrem May 2015 #9

It was clear that Dick Cheney was running the show. FrankAB May 2015 #10

K & R Thespian2 May 2015 #11

I forgot about the "aluminum tubes"...the horrors! SoapBox May 2015 #12

I'm sure that fooled Hillary. Enthusiast May 2015 #37

Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #13

OK. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #14

True dat. nt SusanCalvin May 2015 #18

I agree, it wasn't a blunder Oilwellian May 2015 #44

Your definition is better. kentuck May 2015 #45

Yep Solly Mack May 2015 #51

Lies about incubators from the first Bush Administration TM99 May 2015 #19

Precisely. Enthusiast May 2015 #38

Remember that British document. too.. thecrow May 2015 #20

It wasn't a mistake. It was quite deliberate, I assure you. n/t Gore1FL May 2015 #21

They didn't act on the intelligence they got Jack Rabbit May 2015 #22

I am gonna disagree with you in part. (mostly agree. btw) Raine1967 May 2015 #24

It wasn't a "blunder" or a "mistake". It was the PNAC plan all along. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #25

Precisely. Enthusiast May 2015 #39

Now, now, now--you're being UNFAIR!!!!! MADem May 2015 #26

Bush was invading without AUMF. joshcryer May 2015 #27

I think that agreeing not to look into 9/11 got Obama adopted into the Bush family Doctor_J May 2015 #28

It is perfectly obvious that the Bush Administration fabricated the intelligence Enthusiast May 2015 #29

K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #34

Sorry was sleeping, is it my turn on watch already? johnnyreb May 2015 #35

That is awesome! Enthusiast May 2015 #36

Yep! Lucky we don't hafta see that stuff on tv no more. 'Cawz we love freedom. johnnyreb May 2015 #41

Every time I see you posts of, "100's of recommendations!", MerryBlooms May 2015 #43

The 'Born to It' then 'anointed president' military deserting terrorist bush LeftOfWest May 2015 #40

Confiscate all their assets including JEB May 2015 #59

Furthermore... kentuck May 2015 #46

It was not a mistake or blunder awoke_in_2003 May 2015 #47

It was fucking criminal. Making up shit to kill people for no damned good reason, but that they lonestarnot May 2015 #48

It Wasn't A Blunder, It Was A Crime... Corey_Baker08 May 2015 #54