Lay your cards on the table...

[Raine1967]

24. I am gonna disagree with you in part. (mostly agree. btw)

They got good intelligence. They chose to ignore the Central intelligence Agency as well as the Defense Intelligence Agency and instead relied on the Office of Special Plans.

When they say they acted on the intelligence they received, they were being truthful.

What they are not saying is that they ignored the GOOD intelligence they got.

You know, like there were no weapons of mass destruction. They key to all of this revision of history is that they are ignoring the BS agency set up by neo-cons to lie this nation into war.

Douglas Feith called the office's report a much-needed critique of the CIA's intelligence. "It's healthy to criticize the CIA's intelligence", Feith said. "What the people in the Pentagon were doing was right. It was good government." Feith also rejected accusations he attempted to link Iraq to a formal relationship with Al Qaeda. "No one in my office ever claimed there was an operational relationship", Feith said. "There was a relationship."

In another instance, an "Iraqi intelligence cell" briefing to Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz in August 2002 condemned the CIA's intelligence assessment techniques and denounced the CIA's "consistent underestimation" of matters dealing with the alleged Iraq-al-Qaeda co-operation. In September 2002, two days before the CIA's final assessment of the Iraq-al Qaeda relationship, Feith briefed senior advisers to Dick Cheney and Condoleezza Rice, undercutting the CIA's credibility and alleging "fundamental problems" with CIA intelligence-gathering. As reported in the conservative British newspaper The Daily Telegraph, "Senator Jay Rockefeller, senior Democrat on the [Senate] committee, said that Mr Feith's cell may even have undertaken 'unlawful' intelligence-gathering initiatives."

In February 2007, the Pentagon's inspector general issued a report that concluded that Feith's office "developed, produced, and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and al Qaida relationship, which included some conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the Intelligence Community, to senior decision-makers." The report found that these actions were "inappropriate" though not "illegal." Senator Carl Levin, Chair of the Senate Armed Services Committee, stated that "The bottom line is that intelligence relating to the Iraq-al-Qaeda relationship was manipulated by high-ranking officials in the Department of Defense to support the administration's decision to invade Iraq. The inspector general's report is a devastating condemnation of inappropriate activities in the DOD policy office that helped take this nation to war." At Senator Levin's insistence, on April 6, 2007, the Pentagon's Inspector General's Report was declassified and released to the public.

They keep saying this bullshit line of what we we know now -- blah blah — When they KNEW the intelligence coming from OSP was BS —

THEY IGNORED THE GOOD INTELLIGENCE (sorry for the caps) that would have prevented us from going to war. That is straight up on the entire Bush administration and EVERY SINGLE damn person who defends that war and still defends it.

They can't admit it was a mistake because they probably don;t know about the OSP. and that makes them even worse than the Bush administration.

Truth is, we had good intelligence. That administration knew it. Instead of acknowledging it, they outed a CIA agent to create a distraction.

OSP was shut down after a year an a half. It served its purpose. There was no mistake. This was intentional.

I cannot stand these people.