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In reply to the discussion: 5.4% unemployment lowest in 7 yrs. 223K job gains last month. BIN LADEN dead. [View all]progree
(12,898 posts)61. If we want to get back to Nov 2007, maybe we should elect Jeb Bush. Or Scott Walker?
and get back to the good ol' rah rah boom boom days when we had a white man in the White House? [font color = "gray", size = 1]{sarcasm thingy just to be sure}[/font]
We lost 252,000 full-time jobs in April
In fact, the number of full time jobs peaked in Nov 2007 at 121,875,000. Thats right. We have yet to regain the number of full time jobs we had over seven years ago! We are over 1.1 MILLION jobs short of where we were in 2007. And there are 17 million more people now than there were then.
BLS full-time worker data series: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12500000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026642259
In fact, the number of full time jobs peaked in Nov 2007 at 121,875,000. Thats right. We have yet to regain the number of full time jobs we had over seven years ago! We are over 1.1 MILLION jobs short of where we were in 2007. And there are 17 million more people now than there were then.
BLS full-time worker data series: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12500000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026642259
Yes, most of the economic statistics suck when compared to the peak in 2007. This is one of the classical polemicist tricks (from my EF-0 page at my sigline)
(5). Comparing the current statistics to 2007's statistics, as if 2007 was a normal economy we should get back to - I see this all the time. Yes, today's economic statistics just about across the board suck compared to 2007's. But keep in mind that 2007 was not a normal economy. It was a very sick bubble economy with a very high fever -- people using their houses as ATMs to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Anybody could get a mortgage, virtually no questions asked. The belief that housing prices never go down, at least not on a national average scale (thus the theory that a geographically diversified bundle of mortgages was always a safe bet).
The same for comparisons to 2000 -- that too was a very sick economy -- astronomical price/earnings ratios in the stock market, day trading and momentum investing. The belief that Alan Greenspan had mastered the "Goldilocks" economy (not too cool, not too warm) and that, now that we understood how to use the Fed's powers to control the economy, we will never have a recession again. That tech companies with huge negative earnings and no business plan were great investments. That we were all going to the moon, and we were all going to the stars (speaking of the economy and the stock market).
Well, I'm extremely very sorry. But we don't want to get back to the very sick high-fever bubble economies of 2000 or 2007.
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5.4% unemployment lowest in 7 yrs. 223K job gains last month. BIN LADEN dead. [View all]
UTUSN
May 2015
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Yes, in light of Obama care we know why U6 goes up but REPUBLICANs usually don't mention Obama
uponit7771
May 2015
#49
Terrible news, now Obama has brought the unemployment rate to near historical lows!
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#5
Truly an amazing statistic today, but little news. The anti-TPP folks should set up Camp Strawman elsewhere
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#6
But American military bases went to Level Brown Pants, or something, no time to celebrate and to not be afraid!
Fred Sanders
May 2015
#4
No, and they won't. They don't want to believe the truth. They have an agenda and no facts will
stevenleser
May 2015
#24
Unfortunately, that person isn't interested in the truth. They comb the stats for the one stat that
stevenleser
May 2015
#23
If we want to get back to Nov 2007, maybe we should elect Jeb Bush. Or Scott Walker?
progree
May 2015
#61
Be fun to compare this performance with things Hillary Clinton said about Obama.
True Blue Door
May 2015
#21
No, that's an *interpretation*. You were complaining about bringing up the raw facts of the matter.
Romulox
May 2015
#45
No. I have no problem with the facts. Its your interpretation I have a problem with.
DCBob
May 2015
#48
Yeap, one of the reasons right here on DU Clinton doesn't get any credit for economy or improving
uponit7771
May 2015
#51
More RW wing meme pushing, knowing without stimulus we'd not have shit jobs.. we'd
uponit7771
May 2015
#52