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progree

(12,898 posts)
61. If we want to get back to Nov 2007, maybe we should elect Jeb Bush. Or Scott Walker?
Mon May 18, 2015, 01:21 AM
May 2015

and get back to the good ol' rah rah boom boom days when we had a white man in the White House? [font color = "gray", size = 1]{sarcasm thingy just to be sure}[/font]

We lost 252,000 full-time jobs in April
In fact, the number of full time jobs peaked in Nov 2007 at 121,875,000. Thats right. We have yet to regain the number of full time jobs we had over seven years ago! We are over 1.1 MILLION jobs short of where we were in 2007. And there are 17 million more people now than there were then.
BLS full-time worker data series: http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS12500000
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026642259


Yes, most of the economic statistics suck when compared to the peak in 2007. This is one of the classical polemicist tricks (from my EF-0 page at my sigline)


(5). Comparing the current statistics to 2007's statistics, as if 2007 was a normal economy we should get back to - I see this all the time. Yes, today's economic statistics just about across the board suck compared to 2007's. But keep in mind that 2007 was not a normal economy. It was a very sick bubble economy with a very high fever -- people using their houses as ATMs to the tune of hundreds of billions of dollars a year. Anybody could get a mortgage, virtually no questions asked. The belief that housing prices never go down, at least not on a national average scale (thus the theory that a geographically diversified bundle of mortgages was always a safe bet).

The same for comparisons to 2000 -- that too was a very sick economy -- astronomical price/earnings ratios in the stock market, day trading and momentum investing. The belief that Alan Greenspan had mastered the "Goldilocks" economy (not too cool, not too warm) and that, now that we understood how to use the Fed's powers to control the economy, we will never have a recession again. That tech companies with huge negative earnings and no business plan were great investments. That we were all going to the moon, and we were all going to the stars (speaking of the economy and the stock market).

Well, I'm extremely very sorry. But we don't want to get back to the very sick high-fever bubble economies of 2000 or 2007.

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Terrible news. Dem2 May 2015 #1
How many of those are retired boomers, seniors, disabled? JaneyVee May 2015 #8
It can be measured. former9thward May 2015 #33
college students.. stay at home moms.. young rich retired. DCBob May 2015 #34
It makes perfect sense. former9thward May 2015 #35
Yes of course but.. DCBob May 2015 #36
Yes, in light of Obama care we know why U6 goes up but REPUBLICANs usually don't mention Obama uponit7771 May 2015 #49
It must be Obama's fault, huh. Thinkingabout May 2015 #2
Terrible news, now Obama has brought the unemployment rate to near historical lows! Fred Sanders May 2015 #5
ikr! InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #54
Unemployment rates: sufrommich May 2015 #3
Truly an amazing statistic today, but little news. The anti-TPP folks should set up Camp Strawman elsewhere Fred Sanders May 2015 #6
+1 nt steve2470 May 2015 #7
Why do you hate 'Merika? tridim May 2015 #11
Democrats should be shouting these numbers sufrommich May 2015 #12
In another thread the same report shows a huge loss in full time jobs. nt Mojorabbit May 2015 #22
By all means let's not,as democrats, take any credit for sufrommich May 2015 #26
But American military bases went to Level Brown Pants, or something, no time to celebrate and to not be afraid! Fred Sanders May 2015 #4
Thanks Obama treestar May 2015 #9
Actually LOST 252K Full-time jobs econoclast May 2015 #10
And the trend since the end of the great Bush recession is nothing but upward. tridim May 2015 #13
Nope econoclast May 2015 #17
Hey, just think of all those happy part-time barristas and cashiers! bluesbassman May 2015 #18
Did you even bother to look at the graph on the link I provided? tridim May 2015 #20
No, and they won't. They don't want to believe the truth. They have an agenda and no facts will stevenleser May 2015 #24
I've been looking at it econoclast May 2015 #29
I look at it EVERY MONTH econoclast May 2015 #25
Yes it does. 840high May 2015 #56
And the U6 measures PT workers who would prefer FT whatthehey May 2015 #16
Unfortunately, that person isn't interested in the truth. They comb the stats for the one stat that stevenleser May 2015 #23
Steve ... I've been banging the drum econoclast May 2015 #28
You don't even know how to read a simple graph. tridim May 2015 #31
Ever heard of second derivatives? econoclast May 2015 #32
They won't look it like that. Pretty much the definition of myopic. /nt Marr May 2015 #47
Nailed it. LeftOfWest May 2015 #62
Yes. So what? Here are those graphs you want us to look at... progree May 2015 #64
Full-time workers up 1,265,000 over last 5 months (253,000/month average) progree May 2015 #60
If we want to get back to Nov 2007, maybe we should elect Jeb Bush. Or Scott Walker? progree May 2015 #61
BIN LADEN is STILL DEAD??? Martin Eden May 2015 #14
Bin laden dead Puzzledtraveller May 2015 #15
KnR Hekate May 2015 #19
Be fun to compare this performance with things Hillary Clinton said about Obama. True Blue Door May 2015 #21
I'll see the thousand words and raise them one pic: UTUSN May 2015 #27
Good on the rate hike CountAllVotes May 2015 #30
Absolutely. OilemFirchen May 2015 #37
BENGHAZI!! BENGHAZI!!! BENGHAZI!!!! KamaAina May 2015 #38
They should be embarrassed to tout those numbers. BKH70041 May 2015 #39
You should be embarrased using RW talking points. DCBob May 2015 #40
*Reality*, DCBob. It's a factor. nt Romulox May 2015 #42
Reality is the labor participation rate was abnormally boosted by bubbles. DCBob May 2015 #44
No, that's an *interpretation*. You were complaining about bringing up the raw facts of the matter. Romulox May 2015 #45
No. I have no problem with the facts. Its your interpretation I have a problem with. DCBob May 2015 #48
Yeap, one of the reasons right here on DU Clinton doesn't get any credit for economy or improving uponit7771 May 2015 #51
That tactic is used here all the time. BKH70041 May 2015 #55
Shit jobs, paying shit wages are not enough. 99Forever May 2015 #41
This is just a sales pitch for the TPP. Marr May 2015 #50
This suggests that the numbers are deliberately manipulated Dem2 May 2015 #59
More RW wing meme pushing, knowing without stimulus we'd not have shit jobs.. we'd uponit7771 May 2015 #52
Hey, if you've have no actual response... 99Forever May 2015 #57
What? Bobbie Jo May 2015 #58
But labor participation rate continues to plummet. Oops! nt Romulox May 2015 #43
yay Liberal_in_LA May 2015 #46
yet, life sucks more then I can remember. CentralMass May 2015 #53
It's been over a week, Jamaal510 May 2015 #63
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