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The Straight Story

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Sun Dec 11, 2011, 11:55 PM Dec 2011

Even smarter than we thought? Study reveals clever ravens [View all]

Even smarter than we thought? Study reveals clever ravens

GESTURES: A new study indicates birds assist others with pointing motions.


FAIRBANKS -- Ravens, which are well-known for outwitting everyone from garbage collectors to rival scavengers, may be even smarter than previously thought.

A new European study reports ravens commonly use gestures -- showing and offering objects to each other such as moss, stones and twigs. Such behavior puts ravens in rare company, making the birds the only non-primate confirmed as using pointing gestures to communicate, according to the study. The study, by Simone Pika and Thomas Bugnyar, was published in the Nov. 30 issue of the scientific journal Nature Communications.

Pika said gesturing skill and other intelligence tests, such as gaze-following and problem solving, show ravens could have cognitive abilities on the same level as great apes.

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They witnessed 38 social interactions between raven pairs, such as using their beaks to show objects to other ravens, mainly members of the opposite sex.

http://www.adn.com/2011/12/10/2212243/even-smarter-than-we-thought-study.html

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This should be reposted in Science Odin2005 Dec 2011 #1
Is there a sub section, for birds, and one for ravens (all under mammals)? The Straight Story Dec 2011 #2
LMAO, I'm just trying to follow Skinner's rules! Odin2005 Dec 2011 #5
Just because it is non political flying rabbit Dec 2011 #7
I disagree flying rabbit Dec 2011 #4
... Xicano Dec 2011 #3
Lovely! Merlot Dec 2011 #8
Yes. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #11
That the trickster creator is clever ozone_man Dec 2011 #6
"...ravens...the birds the only non-primate confirmed as using pointing gesture to communicate"? aikoaiko Dec 2011 #9
crows are very smart too Danmel Dec 2011 #10
That's the show I was thinking about. UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #12
Found the full episode of A Murder of Crows UnrepentantLiberal Dec 2011 #13
Inuits know them as "The Trickster" rucky Dec 2011 #14
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