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120. spinning what exactly? That she got paid personally for the speech?

Mon May 18, 2015, 01:24 PM

May 2015

because that wouldn't be spinning, that would be an outright lie. Are you saying Corning didn't lobby state? And what about the appearance of conflict? I'm hardly alone in thinking that the optics of this suck. And I'm afraid that as nominee the attacks on her will be an easy sell to a lot independent, undecided voters, as well as to some dems.

It makes no sense to me that she'd do this. It's not as if she was in financial straits at the time. She knew there was a good chance she'd be running for President when she stepped down from State. Why take any speaking gigs where she was personally paid? Hell, why take any paid speaking gigs at all during that period? It's not like it was urgent for the Foundation. It shows a puzzling lack of judgment. It's biting not just her on the ass, but the party
She may well be elected to the Presidency despite this stuff, but if she isn't, this stuff will play a significant role in her being defeated in Nov, 2016.

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Groups Lobbying On Trade PAID Hillary Clinton $2.5M In SPEAKING FEES [View all] Segami May 2015 OP

Jinx! ;-) RiverLover May 2015 #1

Post removed Post removed May 2015 #99

So the article is lying then? Then post something to counter it. We want FACTs, if you see sabrina 1 May 2015 #109

I posted the exact same article as this, at the same time, so I deleted it. I'm confused by your RiverLover May 2015 #122

You are accusing a member in good standing of being a paid troll. what evidence do you have? hrmjustin May 2015 #140

Thanks justin. RiverLover May 2015 #146

My pleasure! hrmjustin May 2015 #147

Salesforce's CEO is the one pulling out of Indiana because of their bigoted laws. onehandle May 2015 #2

Salesforce's CEO is the one pulling out of Indiana because of their bigoted laws. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #5

Wow! CBS posted this article 7 hours ago & you guys are READY with the HRC camp rebuttal. RiverLover May 2015 #7

Salesforce's CEO is the one pulling out of Indiana because of their bigoted laws. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #9

General Electric's weapons have killed millions of innocent people around the globe..... marmar May 2015 #13

They also provide me with an affordable flat screen television. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16

I'm sure that's comforting to cluster bomb victims in Afghan villages. marmar May 2015 #21

I don't believe they are aware of my flat screen television. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #28

I'm glad, I'm assuming your intentions with these comments, that are not even trying to sabrina 1 May 2015 #65

My interlocutor and I agree that General Electric is an evil corporation DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #75

Unfortunately, it would appear that GE's propaganda mission is RiverNoord May 2015 #83

I already boycott most of the Corporate Media and it isn't a sacrifice at all. It would be a sabrina 1 May 2015 #86

Respectfully DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #90

What a bizarre rationalization. zeemike May 2015 #89

I was merely illustrating the limits of keyboard activism... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #92

That's why they owned NBC for decades and RiverNoord May 2015 #62

Equal rights are human rights. Hillary Clinton 2016 misterhighwasted May 2015 #18

social liberalism and corporate dominance. That really is the ultimate cali May 2015 #25

We can take comfort knowing we're being sold down the river to an inclusive corporatist. Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #35

What potential conflicts of interest? merrily May 2015 #3

Asked the wolf applying for the job to guard the hen house. n/t Exilednight May 2015 #6

I hate it when that happens. merrily May 2015 #11

How much has the lobbyists paid Bernie? Thinkingabout May 2015 #4

Bernie is in the pockets of the Unions. Remember, Unions are also corporations. MohRokTah May 2015 #8

"...Corporations and unions face very different rules and requirements.. Segami May 2015 #12

Different corproations ALWAYS face different rules and requirements. MohRokTah May 2015 #46

And the corporations that are bribing Hillary are trying to diminish the Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #84

No corporations are bribing Hillary. MohRokTah May 2015 #85

Yeah. Sure. They're totally paying her tens of millions of dollars based on her business acumen and Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #87

OFFS MohRokTah May 2015 #88

So what great pearls of wisdom is Hillary dispensing in these $300,000 speeches that Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #94

Isn't that something the entire electorate, by its very definition, practices? LanternWaste May 2015 #101

LOL! As if there is no difference between a union formed to represent workers and WalMart. merrily May 2015 #14

Then be specific when you vilify. MohRokTah May 2015 #47

Where did I vilify corporation, banks, manufacturers, churches or unions? Please don't make up merrily May 2015 #54

Rush, Hannity and O'Reilly called. They want their talking point back. Exilednight May 2015 #19

. MohRokTah May 2015 #48

Yes, unions has their lobbyists and other groups also lobby which are not unions or Thinkingabout May 2015 #24

Agreed. Unions have their interests, other corporations have their interests. MohRokTah May 2015 #39

Corporations care about one thing tennstar May 2015 #72

Unions and churches care about money, too. MohRokTah May 2015 #76

Do you think for one moment unions and churches don't think about their interest? Thinkingabout May 2015 #121

oh fucking please. Unions are not corporations in the sense that cali May 2015 #31

but are you surprised? I'm not. anything will be said or believed neverforget May 2015 #34

no, but I'm as disgusted as I've ever been by DU cali May 2015 #59

~~~DU Poll of 796 members, only 9% choose Hillary to 91% Sanders. NYC_SKP May 2015 #74

It's sorta like equating Jackpine Radical May 2015 #106

It is very disgusting but that won't stop them neverforget May 2015 #131

Religious organizations are also corporations. MohRokTah May 2015 #40

Hey look over here tennstar May 2015 #78

Hey, look fucking closer! MohRokTah May 2015 #79

Behind the curtain tennstar May 2015 #93

Then BE SPECIFIC when you vilify. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #49

oh for fuck's sake, you know precisely what I'm "vilifying" cali May 2015 #63

When you say "corporations", that means ALL corporations. MohRokTah May 2015 #66

bullshit. cali May 2015 #69

Your distinctions lacking any relevant difference are staggering LanternWaste May 2015 #105

some things are so in your face obvious that they don't need any analysis cali May 2015 #108

So is DU. What's your point? Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #36

You damn near got the point. MohRokTah May 2015 #43

"Corporation" in the pejorative sense is shorthand for those entities that Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #81

No, it isn't. It means literally... MohRokTah May 2015 #82

Before I lost everything in the Great Recession I was a S Corporation with one employee; myself. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #119

yes, yes. of course we're referring to people like you when wer're referring cali May 2015 #142

Epic fail. L0oniX May 2015 #102

. MohRokTah May 2015 #113

Wow. Just wow. Scuba May 2015 #168

You should look that up and get back to us. Although, Exilednight May 2015 #10

Accepting a dollar is accepting money, all should be aware of lobbyists activity, Thinkingabout May 2015 #15

Every senator works with lobbyist, but not all take money from them. With that being said Exilednight May 2015 #23

You may feel more comfortable with a congressional member taking money from a union Thinkingabout May 2015 #26

what unions have given to Bernie over the years, is a pitifully small amount cali May 2015 #32

It isn't my problem the unions does not give more to Bernie. Thinkingabout May 2015 #124

lol! You're killing me with this stuff. Marr May 2015 #42

Which corporations? I've googled it and found nothing Exilednight May 2015 #96

"Lobbyist", another bogeyman term thrown about on DU that covers a lot of ground. MohRokTah May 2015 #44

Lobbyist tennstar May 2015 #95

OFFS MohRokTah May 2015 #112

Yes, we know the games they play. Thinkingabout May 2015 #127

Yes, darn Obama for throwing out that bogeyman during his 2008 campaign! Oilwellian May 2015 #128

Yes, he did. MohRokTah May 2015 #129

There's a big difference between accepting A dollar and accepting $300000.00 Exilednight May 2015 #97

So you say. It is like pay checks, some are small, some are larger. Thinkingabout May 2015 #126

Take a dollar and send it to any Senator and then come back and tell me how much influence it bought Exilednight May 2015 #138

Yes, it probably takes more. Thinkingabout May 2015 #145

Why look up anything, when insinuating makes a much quicker post? merrily May 2015 #17

...and these people vote too. L0oniX May 2015 #104

it burns. cali May 2015 #143

Looks as though retired people are his biggest "industry" sector. merrily May 2015 #22

She's a Job Killer. Remember that. She's a Killer of Jobs. Loves outsourcing, loves overseas jobs. NYC_SKP May 2015 #20

No one fears Bernie Sanders. No one. JaneyVee May 2015 #27

Education... Knowledge is power. Tell enough people the truth and they'll make the change. NYC_SKP May 2015 #30

This still wouldn't prevent outsourcing... JaneyVee May 2015 #33

When the corporation board is composed of employees, it makes a difference. nt NYC_SKP May 2015 #41

True, but even then... JaneyVee May 2015 #51

How does that alter facts related to labor arbitrage? MohRokTah May 2015 #45

You seem resigned to outsourcing and globalism. That's very sad, you've given up. NYC_SKP May 2015 #52

I embrace and welcome globalism. MohRokTah May 2015 #53

Wadda surprise. 99Forever May 2015 #29

Fear of Sanders? GOOD ONE! Gamecock Lefty May 2015 #37

HRC is respected and admired. It's no wonder KMOD May 2015 #38

and Corning? cali May 2015 #50

She'd have to pay ME to sit still for more than ten seconds. There's no way she's paid for talking. NYC_SKP May 2015 #55

She gives a great speech. KMOD May 2015 #67

Here ya go, Cali KMOD May 2015 #61

"People" don't pay her to speak FlatBaroque May 2015 #58

HRC is very motivational KMOD May 2015 #64

I am FlatBaroque May 2015 #68

Indeed! I am very motivated to never vote for Goldman and Kissinger's buddy. L0oniX May 2015 #171

Well ...we know Goldman Sachs loves her too. L0oniX May 2015 #160

oh yes, KMOD May 2015 #163

This post was hidden by jury decision. L0oniX May 2015 #170

The entire 'speaking' circuit is a farce. RiverNoord May 2015 #56

Aw, but its "soft corruption", very difficult to prove quid pro quo. RiverLover May 2015 #60

Of course. RiverNoord May 2015 #73

Shhhhh. You're breaking the Omerta Rule. Fuddnik May 2015 #70

It's amazing how the glaringly obvious RiverNoord May 2015 #77

+1 exactly right. cali May 2015 #71

Rec'd ibewlu606 May 2015 #57

Hey...This association is perfectly fredamae May 2015 #80

Here's some more on the March 18th speech KMOD May 2015 #91

No offense, but why do we need her speaking here at all? nt. polly7 May 2015 #137

She was asked to speak there. KMOD May 2015 #139

Russia has been interfering with Canada on trade? polly7 May 2015 #153

Didn't Russia ban Cananda food imports? KMOD May 2015 #154

I am genuinely interested. polly7 May 2015 #156

Let's look closely at her relationship with one cormpany covered in another story about this cali May 2015 #98

Corning joined HRC's KMOD May 2015 #103

How does that address, if nothing else, the issue of appearance of conflict of interest? cali May 2015 #107

If you don't know what the contribution was for, KMOD May 2015 #110

I'm not saying that there was a payoff. I'm speaking to the appearance cali May 2015 #116

They attended the intiative's Jobs One speech, and KMOD May 2015 #118

spinning what exactly? That she got paid personally for the speech? cali May 2015 #120

Cali, you have absolutely no interest in voting for HRC. KMOD May 2015 #125

No. I don't have an interest in voting for her in the primary, but if she's the nominee cali May 2015 #130

She gets paid for speeches. KMOD May 2015 #132

You will be. She's left herself open in an unnecessary way and it's already cali May 2015 #134

I'm from NYS. KMOD May 2015 #135

Corning and China.....Anecdotally KoKo May 2015 #114

French White is made in China, however KMOD May 2015 #117

It is "French White" KoKo May 2015 #133

Thanks. Yes, Hillary Clinton personally took money from companies that sought to influence her Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #100

I linked to some of those speeches up thread. KMOD May 2015 #111

Well said...and if it was any Republican running...we'd be all over it. KoKo May 2015 #115

I know right? Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #123

You mean it's not a Republican running? L0oniX May 2015 #172

See the paid off local bottom feeders, passing themselves off as leaders Maedhros May 2015 #136

Apply these facts to a republican and all the Clinton defenders would be HOWLING cali May 2015 #141

No. No. No. They paid her for her entertainment value. No quid pro quo expected. Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #144

the denial that this is problematic is amazing. The ads make themselves cali May 2015 #148

I realize this is a very concerning issue for you KMOD May 2015 #150

I wasn't calling you an idiot. I don't think you are an idiot cali May 2015 #155

Whether you are pro-Hillary or anti-Hillary...you have to admit, this is stuff that we need to know. clarice May 2015 #149

Precisely. n/t arcane1 May 2015 #152

Didn't they say something similar to Jesus. upaloopa May 2015 #151

speechless cali May 2015 #167

"people are going to question whether she was influenced by the money she was paid" delrem May 2015 #157

...and on matters of going to war we have this little goody... L0oniX May 2015 #161

Today in the WP, Gerson: delrem May 2015 #162

Safety in numbers for a war hawk. L0oniX May 2015 #173

Just so you know,Republicans are posting negative information about 6000eliot May 2015 #158

IMO Hillary Clinton shouldn't have taken all that money. delrem May 2015 #159

Just so you know, Republicans are posting negative information 6000eliot May 2015 #164

Just so you know, Hillary Clinton has opponents on the Dem side. delrem May 2015 #166

Hillary has discredited herself. She needs no help from the right or left. Scuba May 2015 #169

We could solve poverty this way! daredtowork May 2015 #165