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eloydude

(376 posts)
113. The forgotten left...
Mon May 18, 2015, 05:43 PM
May 2015

The one that has no interest in selecting the lesser of two evils.

They want a real choice.

Bernie's life is based on principles, not JEB May 2015 #1
Yes, it is refreshing. Especially since he has a long record to prove that he isn't sabrina 1 May 2015 #2
I don't understand the "drag X to the Left" Bettie May 2015 #119
I don't understand it either. It makes no sense at all. And those who are saying this are democrats. sabrina 1 May 2015 #123
Gotta remember w0nderer Nov 2015 #139
Not since take over by DLC / Third Way. Now a front for corp orgs on point May 2015 #3
The funny thing is that people don't get it. kenfrequed May 2015 #4
You took the right message from te two mid terms where the Third Way lost us sabrina 1 May 2015 #6
My congressman is a bluedog and I hate him davidpdx May 2015 #125
That's what's happening now. People held their noses with promises of 'just vote for the person with sabrina 1 May 2015 #127
I believe there is a push back in the district to find someone to run against him davidpdx May 2015 #129
Re: the Blue Dogs... YoungDemCA May 2015 #15
and many of them are on DU perpetuating ignorance. Phlem May 2015 #32
What I HONESTLY dont get is those who support Bernie, or Elizabeth, mostly now NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #103
I don't think people are really worrying about what to do in the GE at this point. They are working sabrina 1 May 2015 #121
A slight tweak to your post Oilwellian May 2015 #26
Well... kenfrequed May 2015 #36
Yes, that is true. But they bristle when you talk about that. Yet, when they dismiss Bernie sabrina 1 May 2015 #5
On point about causing Hillary to shift to the "left."... Eleanors38 May 2015 #70
the only reason he's running is to win. nashville_brook May 2015 #7
it is not an all or nothing argument you are making. sanders and clinton agree on like 90% of issues seabeyond May 2015 #8
+1 YoungDemCA May 2015 #11
then where would the battle be? nt seabeyond May 2015 #13
It's not hard to understand. What IS hard to understand is why any Democratic candidate would need sabrina 1 May 2015 #17
why does sanders have to be dragged to the left with gun issues? seabeyond May 2015 #20
Why does Hillary have to be dragged to the Left on Foreign Policy and Economic issues? sabrina 1 May 2015 #27
i am not tearing the man down, stating fact, that he has to be dragged to the left with gun issues seabeyond May 2015 #30
What was 'liberal' about Bush's Iraq War? About Libya? About the Patriot Act? About sabrina 1 May 2015 #35
side step, shuffle, side step shuffle. no thanks. i do not want to do this dance with you seabeyond May 2015 #37
Because the 'mainstream' knows nothing of him, for starters. babylonsister May 2015 #124
We have two declared candidates right now. I support the one who best sabrina 1 May 2015 #126
The mainstream knew nothing about Obama too AgingAmerican May 2015 #132
We have two parties. Attacking the Left is attacking the Democratic Party. sabrina 1 May 2015 #14
you are creating the drama i do not paly in. again. pragmatically. realistically. logically. seabeyond May 2015 #16
I didn't create the argument. I am RESPONDING to the 'drama' you refer to. sabrina 1 May 2015 #22
you are creating drama arguing this as an all or nothing sum. seabeyond May 2015 #23
Where is the 'drama' about stating a FACT? We have two parties. Is there another one sabrina 1 May 2015 #38
"Where is the 'drama'" i have already told you a number of times what the drama is you create seabeyond May 2015 #40
You told me that the two dem candidates agree about 90% of the issues. I asked for a source sabrina 1 May 2015 #44
saying bernie is right on the gun issue with democratic party is not an attack. see? more drama seabeyond May 2015 #51
It must be painful to lose an argument this badly. Scuba May 2015 #134
another point. you are arguing even on the 10% of disagreement it is all or nothing. even that 10% seabeyond May 2015 #18
Where did Hillary get with the SC? What legislation did she propose that was passed into law? sabrina 1 May 2015 #24
i was referring to obama's presidency seabeyond May 2015 #25
I find it closer to 50% Exilednight May 2015 #19
as a whole, it is reported clinton is with sanders like 90%. a ridiculously high number. seabeyond May 2015 #21
Reported by whom? I have not seen a source for that. She is with him on the issues ALL Dems sabrina 1 May 2015 #31
90% of the issues? sulphurdunn May 2015 #29
tell you what. you have all of the primary to educate yourself on all these issues. seabeyond May 2015 #33
I already know this stuff. sulphurdunn May 2015 #54
good for you. then what a waste of my time to type it all out. which is what i figured seabeyond May 2015 #56
No, it would be useful sulphurdunn May 2015 #59
ty, no. lol. i am not in the need, regardless what you feel. seabeyond May 2015 #61
OK, have a nice day. sulphurdunn May 2015 #65
always. you, too seabeyond May 2015 #66
This message was self-deleted by its author sulphurdunn May 2015 #57
The national Party is right of center. hobbit709 May 2015 #9
Agreed. The Democratic Party is the mainstream, center-left party in the American system YoungDemCA May 2015 #10
Excellent post MissDeeds May 2015 #12
He won't be in the General election in 2016. upaloopa May 2015 #28
The Democrat will be Bernie! So excited to have a Dem candidate to be enthusiastic over, as are sabrina 1 May 2015 #34
Well we will see. I doubt he will be the nominee. upaloopa May 2015 #39
I asked one of my best friends. She had never heard of him either. So I told her all about him sabrina 1 May 2015 #42
Well my wife will watch reality TV up till the night upaloopa May 2015 #45
That's too bad. Then she probably isn't knowledgeable about politics in general. Maybe you could sabrina 1 May 2015 #46
No way. We get along because we let each other upaloopa May 2015 #50
That's good. sabrina 1 May 2015 #120
what an astonishing level of self-delusion TheSarcastinator May 2015 #41
I am responding to the claims that Bernie is only in this race to 'drag' Hillary to the Left. sabrina 1 May 2015 #43
I think he's coming from a position BainsBane May 2015 #68
Is that a pretty ego-centric view ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #47
I don't know, is it? I am a Democrat because that is the party that most represents my, mostly left sabrina 1 May 2015 #49
This is just flat out untrue. F4lconF16 May 2015 #48
At this point, I probably couldn't agree with you more. I am no longer represented by this party sabrina 1 May 2015 #53
No, that makes more sense. F4lconF16 May 2015 #55
"she is not to the Left. " again. your all or nothing sum... argument. she is not left, at ALL? seabeyond May 2015 #58
What does 'good that Bernie is in the race, he won't win BUT he will help sabrina 1 May 2015 #74
bernie is more left than some on gun issues. not AS left as others. that is what it MEANS to me. seabeyond May 2015 #75
I know you support Hillary, and you must know sabrina 1 May 2015 #76
" I know you support Hillary" no you do not. seabeyond May 2015 #78
Okay, then why are you attacking Bernie? I've seen you do it repeatedly. Which is fine, so long as sabrina 1 May 2015 #89
you keep defining stating sanders position on guns as an attack. that is your bad. not mine. seabeyond May 2015 #90
There are literally hundreds of issues that Bernie has taken an outspoken stand on and backed up his sabrina 1 May 2015 #96
you asked a question about pulling to the left. i answered. now, shuffle shuffle, side. that is all. seabeyond May 2015 #98
btw... i have probably said at least 20 times, i feel sanders can win. seabeyond May 2015 #93
Good we agree on that. He can win and yes, he does have the attention of younger voters sabrina 1 May 2015 #102
i have repeatedly said. i am around lots of first time voters. i have kinda handed this election seabeyond May 2015 #104
That's good to know. I have faith in the younger generation also, it is going to be their world sabrina 1 May 2015 #105
+1 BainsBane May 2015 #71
The Republican Party has slid deep into Fascism the Democratic Party much less Fascist. gordianot May 2015 #52
K&R! Katashi_itto May 2015 #60
Only because the left was systematically purged BainsBane May 2015 #62
Good post and I agree with most of what you say. America was an idea, our Constitution was sabrina 1 May 2015 #73
And I completely respect your support of Sanders BainsBane May 2015 #77
Thank you, I appreciate your civility and thoughtful posts. n/t sabrina 1 May 2015 #80
Truth! vive la commune May 2015 #87
One Low Bar colsohlibgal May 2015 #63
Yes, it does and only one candidate so far can pull the entire party back from the brink sabrina 1 May 2015 #108
Answer: the Democratic Party is also the Party of the Center... brooklynite May 2015 #64
Right now, the "Party" doesn't claim Any identification other than a vague corp. centrism. Eleanors38 May 2015 #69
Republicans have their own party. Let THEM stay in that party and FIX IT. We don't need to change sabrina 1 May 2015 #79
"this is why the Dem Party lost two mid terms" brooklynite May 2015 #94
i thought the issue was gerrymandering? i know mid term does not get out dem vote. seabeyond May 2015 #97
...at the House level; gerrymandering doesn't affect Senate or Presidential brooklynite May 2015 #99
Ty. nt seabeyond May 2015 #100
The Dem Party lost the Senate and the House by refusing to listen to the voters. sabrina 1 May 2015 #101
Many of the people who lost also ran away from Obama and the ACA davidpdx May 2015 #128
Hillary Clinton remains _NOT_ the answer eloydude May 2015 #109
Once again, explain how Sanders wins a national election... brooklynite May 2015 #111
The forgotten left... eloydude May 2015 #113
see. here is you major, kick in the ass, fail. lesser evil? some of us actually see the harm seabeyond May 2015 #114
So you foist Hillary on me? eloydude May 2015 #115
i do not "foist" shit on you. i am calling the "lesser of two evil" bullshit comment you made. nt seabeyond May 2015 #117
As a socialist, I can tell ya that just ain't so. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #67
I know. But that is what we are told. And so long as we are told that, then we should demand sabrina 1 May 2015 #84
Excellent point, and I agree. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #92
But our leaders are all far right republicans. And strangely enough, the party is now useless Doctor_J May 2015 #72
President Obama is a "Far Right Republican" brooklynite May 2015 #95
Obama already identified himself as a Reagan Republican eloydude May 2015 #110
Yeah, that's right. Obama is a Republican! Major Hogwash May 2015 #133
The balance of left and right politics UglyGreed May 2015 #81
I would agree with anyone who says that Bernie's candidacy and eventual victory will be the sabrina 1 May 2015 #86
Spot on UglyGreed May 2015 #106
I am going to support him in the primary redstatebluegirl May 2015 #82
Bernie is a man of his word. So I do not doubt him when he says 'I will not be a spoiler'. sabrina 1 May 2015 #85
I agree that saying he is unelectable is not appropriate. redstatebluegirl May 2015 #88
I know how you feel. We've all been disappointed so it's natural, and probably a good thing NOT sabrina 1 May 2015 #91
Until recently I was registered Independent. MuseRider May 2015 #83
Good for you, and you are exactly right. Why on earth would we want to take on the job of sabrina 1 May 2015 #107
If the Democratic Party is The Left we are probably screwed. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #112
I think we are screwed. But I think BernieSanders gives us an opportunity to sabrina 1 May 2015 #116
Yes it does seem like the Sanders 2016 campaign has a sense of urgency about it. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #130
KnR CharlotteVale May 2015 #118
Well, you tried BrotherIvan May 2015 #122
47 years. Major Hogwash May 2015 #131
Bernie's been a Democrat his whole life. sabrina 1 May 2015 #136
Hahahaha!!!!!!! Major Hogwash May 2015 #137
Not nearly as funny as you! Lol! sabrina 1 May 2015 #138
K&R Scuba May 2015 #135
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