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1StrongBlackMan

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121. I was about to request that you edit your remarks ...

Tue May 19, 2015, 02:51 PM

May 2015

Then, I read this:

But in this case, I am preferring the way sociologists use the term since this is an area of their study and expertise. And white male sociologists use the term this way too.

So it is not how Black folks use/understand the word/phenomena; but, rather, how academics use/understand the word/phenomena.

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Professor Meets World: Saida Grundy and her comments about white college men [View all] gollygee May 2015 OP

"So why the controversy"? It seems the professor is learning a valuable lesson: Buzz Clik May 2015 #1

Or at least don't make them on Twitter with its 140 character limits mythology May 2015 #2

Twitter is the worst, no doubt, which gets to this: Buzz Clik May 2015 #6

I think the point of the entire article is that the only reason her comments were "controversial" Number23 May 2015 #9

Hughey's comments would make sense if there weren't 30 years aikoaiko May 2015 #14

The fact that they're still happening to the extent they are after 30 years of programs gollygee May 2015 #17

This issue is with targeting a population for change and that's been happening. aikoaiko May 2015 #94

That may have been the point of the article, but it wasn't my point. Buzz Clik May 2015 #20

If there was a point beyond what you actually typed, then it is lost Number23 May 2015 #139

fine. Buzz Clik May 2015 #140

I think she was making social commentary on the basis of academic evidence Number23 May 2015 #143

I think we're inches apart. Buzz Clik May 2015 #144

+1 n/t JTFrog May 2015 #31

I have to disagree--if a white professor had made comments about the incidence of homicide geek tragedy May 2015 #34

ya, i am exhausted by it also, all the fuggin' time. the reality is, there is a problem with that seabeyond May 2015 #42

there is a problem with that demographic, but that problem is the culture in which geek tragedy May 2015 #46

from a non academic perspective and the redundancy of the conversation, ... we all need to step up, seabeyond May 2015 #50

What is the "problem" with that demographic? Sobax May 2015 #135

There is a significant difference between designating a group as a "problem population" on Number23 May 2015 #142

+1 nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #86

Oh, you caught that, Huh? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #98

The most recent statistics I saw for accusations of sexual assault on campus Sobax May 2015 #136

If you think that 60% of sexual assault claims against white males makes them "underepresented" then Number23 May 2015 #145

I have predictions for this thread alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #3

You're keeping you predictions a secret? Buzz Clik May 2015 #5

I bet he never saw THAT coming! FrodosPet May 2015 #8

In light of the thread topic - this guy wouldn't be happy either! JustAnotherGen May 2015 #79

death to twitter el_bryanto May 2015 #4

kick gollygee May 2015 #7

Racist tweets are racist NobodyHere May 2015 #10

Third paragraph copied in the OP gollygee May 2015 #13

I don't like the idea romanic May 2015 #11

She is a sociologist who teaches African American studies gollygee May 2015 #12

She doesn't have to be inflammatory and insulting. Nt hack89 May 2015 #15

So it's a tone argument gollygee May 2015 #16

Any person has to be aware of tone on social media hack89 May 2015 #18

I think gollygee May 2015 #19

Which makes perfect sense in the classroom. hack89 May 2015 #21

She can tweet whatever she wants gollygee May 2015 #22

Where did I say she didn't have that right? hack89 May 2015 #23

That's possible gollygee May 2015 #26

Common sense and awareness of your audience are useful traits hack89 May 2015 #28

Those traits are what enable good teaching. Eleanors38 May 2015 #55

i am telling you. men have been knocking me upside the head for a while now, thinking it will teach seabeyond May 2015 #56

Nor should you shut up hack89 May 2015 #59

the consequence. a woman dare speaks and violence, vulgarity will ensue. be forewarned, and maybe seabeyond May 2015 #62

I am not ok that you must suffer negative consequences for speaking out hack89 May 2015 #63

i was trying to get clarification on that. thank you. nt seabeyond May 2015 #66

Which is why classes aren't held via Twitter. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #32

It's discussion gollygee May 2015 #33

But how much of that discussion is useful mythology May 2015 #39

a discussion would be excellent. the point. when SHE starts a discussion, HE's shut it down. nt seabeyond May 2015 #41

"Tone" is becoming a social construct in itself; a means of diminishing the impact Eleanors38 May 2015 #53

let us not forget Tony! Toni! Tone! kwassa May 2015 #132

I forgot after becoming ______ deaf. Eleanors38 May 2015 #133

I didn't say "racial" romanic May 2015 #24

Ah I must need to get my glasses checked gollygee May 2015 #25

I respectfully disagree. romanic May 2015 #27

The way I read that tweet gollygee May 2015 #29

that makes sense. but as a general rule if you have to clarify a comment geek tragedy May 2015 #35

Well gollygee May 2015 #37

which is why it's so lethal to politicians nt geek tragedy May 2015 #38

she isn't a politician. nt gollygee May 2015 #45

no, but she is an educator. no doubt that people who put together her tweets geek tragedy May 2015 #47

it isn't anything like an academic journal. gollygee May 2015 #48

it's publication of viewpoints. geek tragedy May 2015 #49

it is making excuses for fuckin' stupid, abusive, ignorant reactions. that simple. seabeyond May 2015 #51

honestly, sea, you know we agree on just about everything geek tragedy May 2015 #60

ONE week a year, she is making a statement with her $ earned, and you are on her ass? hey. i do seabeyond May 2015 #64

I can only see the world through my own eyes. Even when I try to put myself in someone else's geek tragedy May 2015 #71

let me address the beginning. this is the point. the worlds story has been told only thru mens eyes. seabeyond May 2015 #73

that's just it, we lack any frame of reference. geek tragedy May 2015 #74

we are forced to see bivisual, and that is a good term. it is time, men start challenging themselves seabeyond May 2015 #76

thing is, I don't know that a person can choose to be bi-visual or geek tragedy May 2015 #78

i call bullshit on this daily. my kids are much better doing it with black and gays. not so well seabeyond May 2015 #80

i could not/would not use woman. girl, lady. cause we do not use woman, or just starting. seabeyond May 2015 #81

fuck. i use to be one of the nice ones, iwth a nice tone. see what you all did to me? seabeyond May 2015 #82

and i may be seeing this wrong. i know i saw a 'comic' relief yesterday about cops beating black seabeyond May 2015 #65

you saw it as you saw it, no right or wrong nt geek tragedy May 2015 #67

So far the professor reveals a bad temper for teaching. I don't mind radical profs... Eleanors38 May 2015 #61

We don't know how she is in the classroom gollygee May 2015 #75

Her temper still seems bad. I don't much care about occasional demonstrated anger. Eleanors38 May 2015 #85

The only thing I've seen that would show a bad temper gollygee May 2015 #87

interesting. reminds me of young women in the field told to put a mans name on paper before seabeyond May 2015 #30

Not limited to white male students 1939 May 2015 #36

The narrative of "whites" doing X, Y, and Z is a safer sell... Eleanors38 May 2015 #68

there is nothing safe in challenging white, hetero, (christian), man. nothing. what an absurd seabeyond May 2015 #69

It is a safer narrative. The smart ones know how to use it. Eleanors38 May 2015 #72

The women could out-compete the men when it comes to binge drinking these days Sobax May 2015 #77

Have you been to a Black fraternity party? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #102

cause standards is set way higher for them? academicaly and to be taken seriously? nt seabeyond May 2015 #115

When i was working on my MS degree 1939 May 2015 #134

She's evidently not too fond of white rape survivors either. B2G May 2015 #40

Daily Mail gollygee May 2015 #43

Whatever. She was less than sensitive no matter the context. B2G May 2015 #44

she was less sensitive to the fuckwad being insensitive? OMG and you do not see the privilege, seabeyond May 2015 #52

What 'fuckwad' are you referring to? B2G May 2015 #57

it is a confusing story. it is used to manipulate. my point is beyond the particulars. seabeyond May 2015 #58

First we had the Twinkie Defense. Now we have the Twitter Defense! Eleanors38 May 2015 #70

so first i sat listening to this conversation. processing. and i am bottomling, she was not "nice" seabeyond May 2015 #54

Perhaps if i understood what you are trying to get at here... B2G May 2015 #83

It sounds like she misunderstood what happened gollygee May 2015 #84

The only 'nasty' I saw was from Grundy. nt B2G May 2015 #88

From the Daily Mail gollygee May 2015 #89

Screen prints don't lie. B2G May 2015 #90

It shows a cut-out section of a larger conversation gollygee May 2015 #91

That's because Ms. Grundy deleted it. B2G May 2015 #92

If they have a screen capture, they could have shown more of the conversation. gollygee May 2015 #93

Race trumps all with people like her B2G May 2015 #95

You don't know her gollygee May 2015 #96

Neither do you. nt B2G May 2015 #111

I haven't made assumptions about her gollygee May 2015 #113

I am basing my judgement by her own words B2G May 2015 #122

Forget it. romanic May 2015 #141

Wow ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #97

I know this point comes up a lot Sobax May 2015 #99

The way words are used by white men gollygee May 2015 #100

That's your right, I guess Sobax May 2015 #103

"Correct" according to white men gollygee May 2015 #104

Why would you reject how white men use words Sobax May 2015 #107

People affected by racism have a better understanding of it than we do gollygee May 2015 #110

That's a bit circular Sobax May 2015 #112

If you can't figure out who is affected by racism gollygee May 2015 #114

Before I know who is affected by racism Sobax May 2015 #117

Or you need to be a part of this society gollygee May 2015 #118

I was about to request that you edit your remarks ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #121

Yeah and he ignored that paragrah. gollygee May 2015 #123

I think a lot is being ignored. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #125

Perhaps, by defaulting to the langauge used by the Academics that study the phenomena? n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #119

Why though? As I've said, they have no special mandate or authority Sobax May 2015 #120

And I have already said ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #124

Yes, why? If a word is already defined and in common usage Sobax May 2015 #126

So ignorance it is. 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #127

Ignorance of what? Sobax May 2015 #128

Please list your peer-reviewed research on the subject of racism. Thanks. 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #129

After reading some of the peer-reviewed research on the subject Sobax May 2015 #130

True, we are just discussing MY experience in this world. No worries ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #131

And theree's no reason to accept climatologists attempts to control the language ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #106

No, absolutely not Sobax May 2015 #108

Yeah? Okay. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #116

Yeah ... They, really do ... Well, not a "special mandate", as the refining of terms ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #105

Yes it does sound familiar gollygee May 2015 #101

Sure does ismnotwasm May 2015 #109

They sabotaged her review score on Rate My Professor LittleBlue May 2015 #137

She teaches African American studies gollygee May 2015 #138

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #146