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DonCoquixote

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53. with all due respect

Tue May 19, 2015, 10:41 PM

May 2015

Great. He won't pass anything. If he doesn't offer to give something, Republicans won't work with him at all. Republicans will claim they tried to negotiate and he refused. And they will have the truth on their side. His popularity will plummet. Democrats in the House and Senate will likely turn their backs on him and offer to work with Republicans to get compromise legislation passed over his vetoes.

In the midterms, the Republicans will run against Bernie not working with them, and get veto-proof majorities that allow them to pass anything they want over his vetoes.

Do you honestly think they will NOT do that to Hillary? That is the GOP battleplan all along. Ronal Reagan could get elected and they will bleat this. Asfar as the truth. on their side, if the truth mattered to them and fox news, we would be in a different world.

In the midterms, the Republicans will run against Bernie not working with them, and get veto-proof majorities that allow them to pass anything they want over his vetoes.

Again, what makes you think they do not plan this with Hillary, especially since she is exactly the sort of person that Fox news knows how to explouit? If you think Hillary has some scarecorw like power to frighten away crows fat on Koch funds, and ferarful of losing those funds, you are still living in the 90s.

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i would +1 this post, but i cannot. Bluenorthwest gave me permission to post this as an OP. [View all] seabeyond May 2015 OP

This is why I find populist rhetoric so ironic. F4lconF16 May 2015 #1

I know! ismnotwasm May 2015 #7

who are you thinking of? Are you referring to American history? cali May 2015 #19

you are not getting this conversation is not about sanders vs clinton. you cannot get off that. seabeyond May 2015 #21

the Longs BainsBane May 2015 #28

excellent point. thanks for explaining this. nt seabeyond May 2015 #48

people, mostly men, point the finger at radical fems. not an insult. basically, seabeyond May 2015 #24

If you want to communicate clearly truebluegreen May 2015 #29

I know. I went from radical feminist to corporate sell out and Third Way BainsBane May 2015 #30

reminds me of the 'virgin, lesbian, slut' version i went thru with one particular man. lol. nt seabeyond May 2015 #32

kicking for exposure seabeyond May 2015 #2

Thanks to both you and Blue Northwest etherealtruth May 2015 #3

it is an excellent conversation to be had. for sure..... seabeyond May 2015 #18

A couple of paragraphs of jumbled nonsense and unsupported claims. bvar22 May 2015 #4

Ah snark when unable to refute. Good for you. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #9

perfectly said. and ya... all too damn obvious. nt seabeyond May 2015 #10

I think the hostility is all too revealing BainsBane May 2015 #27

I see a clear politics of exclusion going on. seabeyond May 2015 #33

I see the clear politics of ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #52

people are trying to turn "progressive" DonCoquixote May 2015 #35

But of course... NuclearDem May 2015 #16

"jumbled nonsense " NCTraveler May 2015 #36

number two. lol lol. hadnt even registered that. you are so fuckin'ly funny. what a hoot. seabeyond May 2015 #37

Did my questions scare you? Why can't you stand up and respond? You sure were free with the snark Bluenorthwest May 2015 #43

KnR...right there with you sea. sheshe2 May 2015 #5

They want economic justice first. Then I guess they believe that will trickle down to social justice seabeyond May 2015 #17

K&R ismnotwasm May 2015 #6

This has been shown a million times in a million different ways Number23 May 2015 #8

this is for you. this path has the same feel i experienced the last 3 yrs with the lesbian/black seabeyond May 2015 #15

Yes, yes and yes. Absolutely yes Number23 May 2015 #50

It's very hard to reach people who are determined not to hear you and who will use stevenleser May 2015 #11

i see the excitement with sanders. i ponder the illusions. contradictions. the obvious. seabeyond May 2015 #13

I cannot speak for all bernie supporters, but DonCoquixote May 2015 #41

Actually, no, you don't know what won't be passed. That's my point. stevenleser May 2015 #45

with all due respect DonCoquixote May 2015 #53

it is rather rich to see people talking about how the Democratic party has traded economic geek tragedy May 2015 #12

a couple threads made me realize yesterday. sj is not conversation for dems, but the nation, firstly seabeyond May 2015 #14

they are both vital and both inextricably entwined. cali May 2015 #20

then let us, too, sit at the table and have a voice. seabeyond May 2015 #22

yes and no--yes they are both vital but the economic issues are not necessarily intertwined geek tragedy May 2015 #23

i find the dynamics fascinating and so doable. i see the strong demand of the economic and seabeyond May 2015 #25

Necessary but not sufficient - that's completely right. nt el_bryanto May 2015 #26

Thanks for posting. I would have missed it if you wouldn't have shared. NCTraveler May 2015 #31

+1. i feel the same. thanks nc... always. nt seabeyond May 2015 #34

I see this differently. dawg May 2015 #38

The Democratic Party has a history gollygee May 2015 #39

If you want to go back that far, we might as well all vote Republican. dawg May 2015 #40

Liberals, including progressives and union organizers and leaders gollygee May 2015 #42

for the last decade women say, you take our vote then walk away. with economic populist seabeyond May 2015 #44

Which candidate in which election is walking away from women's issues? dawg May 2015 #46

No offense, seabeyond - love you for what you do here - but I don't get it. closeupready May 2015 #47

populist already/has been dividing. it is the rest of us asking, please allow us to be part of 2016 seabeyond May 2015 #55

Me too. closeupready May 2015 #56

hey.... seabeyond May 2015 #57

K&R Jamaal510 May 2015 #49

Damnnnnn ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #51

K&R betsuni May 2015 #54