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MineralMan

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64. President Obama Publicly Declared His Support for Marriage Equality.

Thu May 10, 2012, 11:45 AM

May 2012

What other President has done that?

We do not yet have national marriage equality. President Obama has increased the chances that we will by his declaration of support for it. Where is the negative in that? He has no wand he can wave to make it happen. He can state his support for it.

What can we do? Well, we can elect a Congress that will send him the bills that will make it happen. We can elect state legislatures that will implement it. We can elect future Presidents and Congresses and state legislatures who will support marriage equality as well.

No other President of The United States has ever declared support for marriage equality. President Obama is the first to do so. That is a positive step.

Thank you, Mr. President, for your statement.

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. SunsetDreams May 2012 #1

There is some legal analysis that says this is bullshit and it's been posted here a Pirate Smile May 2012 #2

He gave his personal opinion...that is all. But that is what we were screaming for, wasn't it? nanabugg May 2012 #105

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No, not at all. elleng May 2012 #9

Heightened scrutiny on section 3. Not on the states rights Section 2. Luminous Animal May 2012 #15

There will NEVER be another Democratic nominee for president that opposes marriage equality FarLeftFist May 2012 #33

exactly...and that's the bottom line... Blue_Tires May 2012 #39

no kidding thank you mr president arely staircase May 2012 #104

allow me to laugh my ass off at the outraged tears of the bitter dead enders. dionysus May 2012 #5

The ODSers can't handle the good news. They have to find something to hate Obama for. Liberal_Stalwart71 May 2012 #7

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splendid strawman! you have vanquished it skillfully... and while you're at it, you dionysus May 2012 #24

Actually, Obama was against NC Amendment one ... here ... JoePhilly May 2012 #60

It's campaign season! OnyxCollie May 2012 #6

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Its not unreasonable that its somewhat confusing. elleng May 2012 #10

Its really a Supreme Court issue. Thats how interracial marriage bans were ended and that how... phleshdef May 2012 #14

And get a liberal majority on SCOTUS confirmed. Loudly May 2012 #19

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Especially those ungrateful gays. (SARCASM ALERT) Luminous Animal May 2012 #18

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Bullshit! ProSense May 2012 #26

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No ProSense May 2012 #29

Yes, without a doubt a liberal when it comes to actual actions. EOTE May 2012 #30

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And ProSense May 2012 #43

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A little bit ProSense May 2012 #48

So wait, you're denying that Obama has escalated the Afghan war? EOTE May 2012 #49

Where ProSense May 2012 #50

So you're NOT denying it? EOTE May 2012 #55

Wow, so you're saying that Obama is just as bad as Nixon in that regard? EOTE May 2012 #56

And you do think that Obama is "a monster who bombed the shit out of another country"?...nt SidDithers May 2012 #51

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You used the word "monster"... SidDithers May 2012 #57

Clearly ProSense May 2012 #59

Nixon certainly did NOT kill hundreds of thousands of civilians. Not even close. EOTE May 2012 #62

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Sure, it's a very valid comparison. EOTE May 2012 #73

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I edited my post. EOTE May 2012 #72

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So you think the bulk of those deaths would have still occurred had we not been there? EOTE May 2012 #80

You Have Made Very Clear, Sir, What Your Opinion Is Worth: As Little As The Extent Of Your Knowledge The Magistrate May 2012 #81

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Well, ProSense May 2012 #61

You've already admitted that you think Obama is a monster. EOTE May 2012 #63

I did no such idiotic thing. ProSense May 2012 #66

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Wow, that's ProSense May 2012 #74

Nixon's hangups and prejudices aside, he passed progressive legislation. EOTE May 2012 #76

What utter ProSense May 2012 #87

Yet Obama a DEMOCRAT with a DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY. EOTE May 2012 #89

Absurd! ProSense May 2012 #91

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More nonsense. ProSense May 2012 #103

Personally, Nixon was a horrendous asshole. EOTE May 2012 #109

LMAO. In no way would Richard fucking Nixon be a liberal then or now. NYC Liberal May 2012 #82

Yet civil rights expanded quite a bit under his administration. EOTE May 2012 #83

Absolute nonsense. NYC Liberal May 2012 #85

Obama is moderate at most, center-right or right at worst. EOTE May 2012 #86

More nonsense ProSense May 2012 #88

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Yes, please ProSense May 2012 #93

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... SidDithers May 2012 #92

Nixon was the bomb! ProSense May 2012 #94

Stop. Your oh-so-substantial counter points are too devastating. EOTE May 2012 #99

Some arguments are so ridiculous... SidDithers May 2012 #106

Substance noted. NT EOTE May 2012 #111

Kent State... SidDithers May 2012 #121

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And The Massive Daily Protests Against Nixon Yavin4 May 2012 #101

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Do you really think Nixon's personal hangups affected his presidency? EOTE May 2012 #110

Thank you for proving my point. NYC Liberal May 2012 #112

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Please, ProSense May 2012 #114

Considered by whom? EOTE May 2012 #115

Here, ProSense May 2012 #116

And Obama fan boys will defend anything. EOTE May 2012 #117

Well ProSense May 2012 #118

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Ah ProSense May 2012 #125

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More nonsense ProSense May 2012 #129

Obama had his very own bailout. EOTE May 2012 #130

Wow ProSense May 2012 #120

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LOL! Now Obama is worse than Bush? NYC Liberal May 2012 #122

Kindly point out to me where I said that? EOTE May 2012 #132

My apologies, I misread what you wrote there. NYC Liberal May 2012 #137

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Wow ProSense May 2012 #12

Oh us ungrateful gays who won't celebrate "states rights" discrimination. Luminous Animal May 2012 #20

The states have to make the laws, and then have them challenged in court treestar May 2012 #37

C'mon-- you got your words. Isn't that enough? Marr May 2012 #45

Obama still needs to evolve more. bigwillq May 2012 #13

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Yeah, it's called "Hide Thread". Anything else that I can help you with? n/t TriMera May 2012 #22

what crap. Anyone who can't see how important the President's statement is, isn't cali May 2012 #28

Spin the statement however you want the fact is.... Evasporque May 2012 #31

Candidate Obama's 'support', plus $2, will get you a ride on the NYC subway. Edweird May 2012 #32

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Nice try. Robb May 2012 #35

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... SidDithers May 2012 #38

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Unrec. Give the BS a rest. n/t FSogol May 2012 #54

President Obama Publicly Declared His Support for Marriage Equality. MineralMan May 2012 #64

It's upsetting ProSense May 2012 #75

I'm not 'upset' I just see it as election season pandering. I feel bad for those that Edweird May 2012 #97

OK, that's not so great BUT NorthCarolina May 2012 #84

NEWSFLASH!!!! Marriage is a state level contract..... TLM May 2012 #95

Stop Trying To Bring In Facts Yavin4 May 2012 #102

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BAWHAHAHAHA!! Rex May 2012 #135

ANYBODY WITH A FEDERAL MARRIAGE CERTIFICATE PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. DevonRex May 2012 #136