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48. Agree regarding use of intelligence as propaganda. They used fake intelligence to

Wed May 20, 2015, 01:42 PM

May 2015

create the impression that the Iraq war was 'pre-emptive'...a necessary response to a provable imminent threat. But I believe the Bush Doctrine is not just that 'pre-emptive' military action is justifiable...it has to do with accepting the idea that an illegal 'preventative' action is somehow pre-emptive.

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TAIBBI: Forget What We Know Now: We Knew Then the Iraq War Was a Joke [View all] kpete May 2015 OP

Well, all of us except for some highly placed politicians... Fumesucker May 2015 #1

We knew it was a con job to benefit bush&Cheney's Halliburton buds peacebird May 2015 #2

peacebird kpete May 2015 #3

That, and a grab for oil. nt hifiguy May 2015 #38

lots of dem party big-wigs falling all over themselves to get in on the joke. KG May 2015 #4

If you read this Wiki page on the polls edhopper May 2015 #5

+1 Johonny May 2015 #34

K & R times 1000! mountain grammy May 2015 #6

It's no longer available online deutsey May 2015 #7

The first time I heard Bush utter "Iraq" I knew he had pulled it out of his ass and I wondered what GoneFishin May 2015 #8

Bush wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11 Poiuyt May 2015 #41

Yes. I think Jeb running could turn out to be a pain in W's ass because it is bringing this stuff up GoneFishin May 2015 #47

K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB May 2015 #9

The sad part is... gregcrawford May 2015 #10

Righteous rant. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2015 #40

+1 Martin Eden May 2015 #44

The Bush Doctrine requires perfect intelligence to work. And there's no such thing wiggs May 2015 #11

Very insightful post FlatBaroque May 2015 #21

The "Bush Doctrine" cannot work, period. Martin Eden May 2015 #45

Agree regarding use of intelligence as propaganda. They used fake intelligence to wiggs May 2015 #48

Correct, there is an important distinction between "preemptive" and "preventive" Martin Eden May 2015 #49

K & R malaise May 2015 #12

Amazing how many main stream politicians blame faulty information for their support of the war. raindaddy May 2015 #13

Yes Hans Blix and the UN inspectors. The U.S. violated 1441. underpants May 2015 #18

Sadly even some of our most powerful D's try to use this excuse. peace13 May 2015 #19

How about when they had the inspectors pulled out, while demanding Iraq prove they had no WMD? Marr May 2015 #14

K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #15

"Everything looks bad if you remember it." --either H. Simpson or H. Clinton. I forget which. nt Romulox May 2015 #16

That post has FlatBaroque May 2015 #20

How is it that ordinary people saw through the obvious lies almost instantly, but some of our sabrina 1 May 2015 #17

A lot of people didn't want to see through it... Blanks May 2015 #43

He had "Daddy" issues packman May 2015 #22

I think his "Daddy" issues were more Oedipal. HE finally had the chance to prove HE was the calimary May 2015 #29

exactly! marym625 May 2015 #23

Today, the GOP still beleives that the Iraq war was right. Democrats_win May 2015 #24

A joke -- but not so funny for the 100s of thousands who were slaughtered and maimed. Arugula Latte May 2015 #25

I remember it. Total bullshit - and people thought I was nuts for saying so. Lil Missy May 2015 #26

Shit. Me too. This shit they're all spewing now about how nobody knew any different, and calimary May 2015 #31

There were anti-war marches with 75-150 thousand people all over the US Johonny May 2015 #33

Would the American military have massed its forces... Jerry442 May 2015 #27

For the most part Murrica is scared s...less. Easily led. kairos12 May 2015 #28

Home of the brave, my ass. hifiguy May 2015 #39

hella sick joke. Hiraeth May 2015 #30

We knew madokie May 2015 #32

^ Wilms May 2015 #35

K&R SixString May 2015 #36

and accountability was off the table reddread May 2015 #37

which is why I will never forgive anyone who voted for it Skittles May 2015 #42

Any one who believed the BS from the Thespian2 May 2015 #46

K & R Scurrilous May 2015 #50