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Chan790

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26. No, but nobody seems to have any problem with Kagan being an ideologue.
Thu May 10, 2012, 01:27 PM
May 2012

The same as Scalia, Alito and Thomas. If it's wrong to choose ideologues who prioritize political positions and ideology over the law for the GOP...then it's wrong for us. Do I like Kagan's political beliefs? For the most part; she's a bit more moderate to slightly-conservative on some issues than I am. She's every bit as calculating and polemical, a knife-fighter. I like that about her.

Do I have a problem with her being on SCOTUS?

Yes. A Justice's decisions should be consistent within the law, not with their party platform. Shorty votes her ideology. Same as Thomas and Scalia, no matter how twisty the logic of a decision needs to get to fit it within ideology. Ideologues don't belong on SCOTUS. Unfortunately, the great legal minds of our era have no chance to be appointed because they're wild-cards who might not vote the party-line or because they're likely to rock the boat.

I remember when Kagan was nominated and I was questioning why the likes of Larry Lessig or Nadine Strossen are never brought up; vastly-superior legal and constitutional scholars who have made careers of arguing some of the most-important cases to ever go before SCOTUS, truly deep contemplative scholarly thinkers. Thinkers who might not fit into the traditional L/R paradigm and are more likely to break with party-ideology in favor of consistent legal theory and interpretation. You can't tell me that either Kagan or Sotomayor is more qualified than either of them. (I know Lessig advocated for Kagan...but Lessig is more qualified for the job. Substantially so.)

The last great-mind we had appointed to the Supreme Court was Thurgood Marshall. None of today's justices are in that same league. The next appointees need be.

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GOTV. We always say it is important. This is why. FSogol May 2012 #1
It's always been the reason. The GOP focused on this one thing for many years. freshwest May 2012 #34
Reason #1 to re-elect President Obama dbackjon May 2012 #2
i agree. nt seabeyond May 2012 #4
Absitively and posolutely. hifiguy May 2012 #9
scalia and thomas though, live unhealthy lives.... seabeyond May 2012 #3
How do you know? kirby May 2012 #10
excesses i have read and heard about. the visual.... seabeyond May 2012 #12
They've both got nothin' on Taft. (nt) harmonicon May 2012 #25
You're right about Scalia, for sure, seabeyond... Surya Gayatri May 2012 #31
i read an article about him, he smokes a lot, eats lots of carbs, drinks etc JI7 May 2012 #32
They are the undead lapislzi May 2012 #33
i sure as hell hope so. barbtries May 2012 #5
Lections do have consequences. \nt still_one May 2012 #6
And this is the biggest reason for me to vote for President Obama. This is a lifetime change if we jwirr May 2012 #7
Is it consistent with religious values to pray for some of these assholes to die? Scuba May 2012 #8
No, but to retire??? elleng May 2012 #22
A lot of the 3rd party supporters in 2000 didn't seem to think SCOTUS appointees were important. libinnyandia May 2012 #11
Lot of those 3rd party voters and sympathizers were fucking Reaganites NNN0LHI May 2012 #16
We had DU'ers claiming that in 2004. emulatorloo May 2012 #20
scalia will never retire. he would rather drop dead on the bench. Javaman May 2012 #13
From your keyboard to God's ears, my friend ... Bake May 2012 #14
And he eventually will and he will be replace. Gold Metal Flake May 2012 #30
These are the most important numbers in this campaign! Bake May 2012 #15
And what assurance do we have Pab Sungenis May 2012 #17
You act as if Sotomayor and Kagan are Scalia-style reactionary right wingers. emulatorloo May 2012 #19
Kagan: "There is no constitutional right to same sex marriage." Pab Sungenis May 2012 #21
No it "doesn't say it all" emulatorloo May 2012 #23
Not. cali May 2012 #28
I know what she says. Pab Sungenis May 2012 #29
No, but nobody seems to have any problem with Kagan being an ideologue. Chan790 May 2012 #26
Fair enough. Especially re Thurgood Marshall. emulatorloo May 2012 #27
Scalia and Kennedy were among the majority voting for Citizens United LongTomH May 2012 #18
Since SCOTUS is totally political these days, they should be subject to term limits SoCalDem May 2012 #24
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