General Discussion

Martin Eden

(15,505 posts)

49. Correct, there is an important distinction between "preemptive" and "preventive"

Wed May 20, 2015, 01:42 PM

May 2015

Bush falsely used the term "preemptive" which should apply only to stopping an attack that is actually being launched. "Preventive" war involves the justification that another country poses a threat of attack sometime in the future.

When Bush launched the war in March 2003 the only "imminent" threat was the UN inspectors would conclude Iraq had no active WMD programs. The official rationale for the war would have disappeared along with the mushroom clouds the American people were told to fear.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

50 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

TAIBBI: Forget What We Know Now: We Knew Then the Iraq War Was a Joke [View all] kpete May 2015 OP

Well, all of us except for some highly placed politicians... Fumesucker May 2015 #1

We knew it was a con job to benefit bush&Cheney's Halliburton buds peacebird May 2015 #2

peacebird kpete May 2015 #3

That, and a grab for oil. nt hifiguy May 2015 #38

lots of dem party big-wigs falling all over themselves to get in on the joke. KG May 2015 #4

If you read this Wiki page on the polls edhopper May 2015 #5

+1 Johonny May 2015 #34

K & R times 1000! mountain grammy May 2015 #6

It's no longer available online deutsey May 2015 #7

The first time I heard Bush utter "Iraq" I knew he had pulled it out of his ass and I wondered what GoneFishin May 2015 #8

Bush wanted to invade Iraq long before 9/11 Poiuyt May 2015 #41

Yes. I think Jeb running could turn out to be a pain in W's ass because it is bringing this stuff up GoneFishin May 2015 #47

K&R for the original post and subsequent informative posts and links. JEB May 2015 #9

The sad part is... gregcrawford May 2015 #10

Righteous rant. Dark n Stormy Knight May 2015 #40

+1 Martin Eden May 2015 #44

The Bush Doctrine requires perfect intelligence to work. And there's no such thing wiggs May 2015 #11

Very insightful post FlatBaroque May 2015 #21

The "Bush Doctrine" cannot work, period. Martin Eden May 2015 #45

Agree regarding use of intelligence as propaganda. They used fake intelligence to wiggs May 2015 #48

Correct, there is an important distinction between "preemptive" and "preventive" Martin Eden May 2015 #49

K & R malaise May 2015 #12

Amazing how many main stream politicians blame faulty information for their support of the war. raindaddy May 2015 #13

Yes Hans Blix and the UN inspectors. The U.S. violated 1441. underpants May 2015 #18

Sadly even some of our most powerful D's try to use this excuse. peace13 May 2015 #19

How about when they had the inspectors pulled out, while demanding Iraq prove they had no WMD? Marr May 2015 #14

K&R..... daleanime May 2015 #15

"Everything looks bad if you remember it." --either H. Simpson or H. Clinton. I forget which. nt Romulox May 2015 #16

That post has FlatBaroque May 2015 #20

How is it that ordinary people saw through the obvious lies almost instantly, but some of our sabrina 1 May 2015 #17

A lot of people didn't want to see through it... Blanks May 2015 #43

He had "Daddy" issues packman May 2015 #22

I think his "Daddy" issues were more Oedipal. HE finally had the chance to prove HE was the calimary May 2015 #29

exactly! marym625 May 2015 #23

Today, the GOP still beleives that the Iraq war was right. Democrats_win May 2015 #24

A joke -- but not so funny for the 100s of thousands who were slaughtered and maimed. Arugula Latte May 2015 #25

I remember it. Total bullshit - and people thought I was nuts for saying so. Lil Missy May 2015 #26

Shit. Me too. This shit they're all spewing now about how nobody knew any different, and calimary May 2015 #31

There were anti-war marches with 75-150 thousand people all over the US Johonny May 2015 #33

Would the American military have massed its forces... Jerry442 May 2015 #27

For the most part Murrica is scared s...less. Easily led. kairos12 May 2015 #28

Home of the brave, my ass. hifiguy May 2015 #39

hella sick joke. Hiraeth May 2015 #30

We knew madokie May 2015 #32

^ Wilms May 2015 #35

K&R SixString May 2015 #36

and accountability was off the table reddread May 2015 #37

which is why I will never forgive anyone who voted for it Skittles May 2015 #42

Any one who believed the BS from the Thespian2 May 2015 #46

K & R Scurrilous May 2015 #50