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kentuck

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57. I guess we could negotiate?

Wed May 20, 2015, 04:59 PM

May 2015

If Hillary wins the primaries, then this Bernie supporter would support Hillary. I could never think of not voting.

But Bernie's message needs to be heard and a lot of citizens agree with him on a lot of issues.

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If we want to win in 2016, we need Bernie Sanders as our candidate. [View all] Scuba May 2015 OP

Was thinking of posting something earlier. Dawgs May 2015 #1

I don't think Bernie would even carry California taught_me_patience May 2015 #2

And you base that on...... daleanime May 2015 #10

Look outside the bubble taught_me_patience May 2015 #25

Ah, if your faith is in money..... daleanime May 2015 #34

It's too early to take polls seriously. Around this time in 2008 Hillary was killing her opponents Exilednight May 2015 #52

In 2014 the country voted for liberal policies (e.g., minimum wage) but did not ... Scuba May 2015 #53

Every Californian I know prefers Sanders over Clinton arcane1 May 2015 #56

Yeah ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #107

I said it down thread... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #110

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #111

It's a meme you'll be seeign from the conservative posters on DU Scootaloo May 2015 #103

Obama, at the time was in his early 40s. Bernie is 71 and does not redstateblues May 2015 #122

Oh yeah, I forgot the "old and feeble" bullshit meme, too. Thanks! Scootaloo May 2015 #123

^^^this^^^ L0oniX May 2015 #131

The opposite of extreme left... MaggieD May 2015 #136

So you define traditional, FDR Democrats as "Extreme Left" Kermitt Gribble May 2015 #148

Nice strawman.... MaggieD May 2015 #149

The "majority" here, Kermitt Gribble May 2015 #153

Maybe a Hilary-Bernie ticket would satisfy all the Dems and attract Independents and young people. olegramps May 2015 #21

That would make me puke. Enthusiast May 2015 #22

Me too MissDeeds May 2015 #30

Well, I see that the hatred of Hilary by some on this board has no limits. olegramps May 2015 #68

It's not hatred of Hillary. It's a realistic assessment of her corporatist inclinations. Enthusiast May 2015 #73

I don't find your assessment realistic. It appears to be driven by drama rather than facts. olegramps May 2015 #78

I'm No Drama Enthusiast and known for pragmatism. Enthusiast May 2015 #81

A vast majority of Democrats get all their political information Maedhros May 2015 #125

It's no worse than Kennedy-Johnson was Scootaloo May 2015 #104

Me too; but, for different reasons. n/t 1StrongBlackMan May 2015 #108

And I'm with you there. Paka May 2015 #118

I don't think so taught_me_patience May 2015 #26

Bernie will take the youth vote. His integrity appeals to their idealism. AtomicKitten May 2015 #76

No it doesn't leftofcool May 2015 #80

Inform yourself. Read his Reddit AMA. AtomicKitten May 2015 #83

+1 Enthusiast May 2015 #89

Good corrective policies are considered "smoke" Rilgin May 2015 #98

+1 TheNutcracker May 2015 #126

Ah yes. Scootaloo May 2015 #105

Yeah ...we don't want free higher education like Iraq used to have. L0oniX May 2015 #132

What possible Republican could beat Bernie? They aren't even normal. Enthusiast May 2015 #23

I think Bernie is the only one that can claim Mnpaul May 2015 #91

Excellent! Enthusiast May 2015 #92

they threw a pile of money at him in his first Senate run Mnpaul May 2015 #95

Vermont is a homogeneous state with one third the population of the San Fernando Valley. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #97

Obama's margin included a good chunk of moderate independents and liberal Republicans... brooklynite May 2015 #3

And if they don't like Hillary sanders should have no trouble JI7 May 2015 #5

But they do... brooklynite May 2015 #15

I was proud to vote for Obama, Paka May 2015 #120

Not to worry... brooklynite May 2015 #124

She won't get mine either.... peacebird May 2015 #146

Ok...still think she's got a cushion... brooklynite May 2015 #151

Just fyi, telling people their votes don't matter is not cool or respectful peacebird May 2015 #152

So lots of racists who hate Obama also hate Hillary? Ok. L0oniX May 2015 #133

Stick to NY MFrohike May 2015 #127

i Don't get this need to deny how much she is popular and liked JI7 May 2015 #4

Being liked is different than winning. Too many people are looking for real answers and Bernie is jwirr May 2015 #11

Respected? Yes. Liked? daleanime May 2015 #14

she is actually loved by many . obama won the nomination by getting JI7 May 2015 #17

There's a theory about her likability. AtomicKitten May 2015 #82

I don't see it as a NEED. Enthusiast May 2015 #24

Agreed and well stated. Vincardog May 2015 #88

Don't forget the huge Independent vote also which 'conventional' candidates will not get considering sabrina 1 May 2015 #6

And the youth. My non-voting grandson told me the other day that he was going to vote for Bernie. jwirr May 2015 #18

and I have seen many stating that they are returning to the party Mnpaul May 2015 #93

There is real excitement around him. I don't remember the last time we have seen anyone like him. jwirr May 2015 #96

Thank you. I have had that feeling also. Very good post. jwirr May 2015 #7

The problem with this argument is that even though people have been "taught to hate" her, DanTex May 2015 #8

And women who are Independents, centrists, and even some Republican women pnwmom May 2015 #13

Just like all those women voted SheilaT May 2015 #35

Voter turnout in 2014 was the worst in 72 years. joshcryer May 2015 #43

That should not have mattered, given SheilaT May 2015 #49

I think it matters since conservatives vote more solid in midterms. joshcryer May 2015 #61

Not you but I got agita when people compare mid term and general elections DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #99

Which points to the need for new Democratic leaders/new Democratic policies being heavily promoted. stillwaiting May 2015 #130

I never thought Wendy Davis had a chance in Republican texas. pnwmom May 2015 #44

Nope, you're wrong justiceischeap May 2015 #59

there was no common wisdom that Davis and Grimes would win , especially not Davis JI7 May 2015 #65

It really doesn't matter if we can capture R votes. The ones who do not change because of what jwirr May 2015 #19

The S word that we don't mention here on DU redstateblues May 2015 #112

Sanders, Hillary, Warren, O'Malley... NCTraveler May 2015 #9

I know its early but Bernie has this to loose madokie May 2015 #12

8 months til the first Democratic primary. AtomicKitten May 2015 #84

Bernie may get the Reagan Democrats back? kentuck May 2015 #16

The Reagan Democrats were made up of mostly labor, and they favored Reagan over Carter. It would still_one May 2015 #28

Bernie cannot win Florida unless he has a much bigger budget. Sancho May 2015 #20

it has only been like 3 weeks since he announced questionseverything May 2015 #90

No matter who wins the Democratic nomination it is not going to be a slam dunk. still_one May 2015 #27

But you can't judge non-presidential election year to a presidential one LynneSin May 2015 #40

Good points, LynneSin. kentuck May 2015 #45

Senate is statewide and not subject to gerrymandering still_one May 2015 #138

Consider this - in 2012 more Pennsylvanians voted to have a Dem represent them in the House LynneSin May 2015 #139

did not realize it was 60%. Excellent points, thanks for the info still_one May 2015 #137

I don't blame the GOP for the Congress we have... LynneSin May 2015 #140

Yup still_one May 2015 #145

I'm sorry, with the group of idiots on the GOP ticket, to say only Bernie could win 2016 LynneSin May 2015 #29

Do you really think that 60+ million Americans are going to vote for Bernie Sanders? George II May 2015 #31

The Democratic primary voters will decide Cali_Democrat May 2015 #32

What makes Bernie special is floriduck May 2015 #33

I bet the same thing was said of Kucinich in 2004 and 2008 on DU. MohRokTah May 2015 #36

No. We said that about Barack Hussein Obama. And we were mocked. nt NYC_SKP May 2015 #50

Everybody I knew thought Obama stood a damned good chance. MohRokTah May 2015 #66

I changed registration from Independent to Democrat to vote in the primary for him. olegramps May 2015 #70

Obama has tons on charisma, Bernie unfortunately doesn't redstateblues May 2015 #113

even the rightiest Orange County barfly perks up at Sanders vs. Hillary-Jeb MisterP May 2015 #37

The energy level for Bernie is similar to that of Jimmy Carter in 1975... kentuck May 2015 #38

We can get him if we make it happen. riqster May 2015 #39

the right is scared sh****ss of Hillary - they are spending every minute DrDan May 2015 #41

and we see every one of their talking points BainsBane May 2015 #48

not necessarily a bad thing - lets get this crap out now and not next year at this time DrDan May 2015 #51

Your argument is wishful thinking BainsBane May 2015 #42

He has no data... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #100

Realistic thinking like that has no place here on DU redstateblues May 2015 #119

She won 70% of the Latino vote against Barack Obama in 08. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #121

If we want to win in 2016 we need Hillary Laser102 May 2015 #46

"Backwoods, Louisiana" will vote for Hillary??? LMFAO L0oniX May 2015 #134

Any Democrat can beat the clown car. joshcryer May 2015 #47

I read those same words regarding Rand Paul - "Any Democrat can beat Rand" DrDan May 2015 #60

Really? joshcryer May 2015 #64

yep really - there were some here who did not see him as a viable candidate DrDan May 2015 #74

I think he's a joke for president. joshcryer May 2015 #85

Agree. Hillary has no case, not on values, and not on electability. True Blue Door May 2015 #54

He's a senator from a small homogeneous state.. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #101

like the man said shebornik May 2015 #55

I guess we could negotiate? kentuck May 2015 #57

all signs point to that being an insane POV Florencenj2point0 May 2015 #58

Are you actually paid by the Clinton Team? kentuck May 2015 #67

Why do folks insist on pointing out spelling mistakes? DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #106

Well . . . because it is often a sign of a person who, shall I say, makes those signs Nay Jun 2015 #154

I only point out spelling mistakes DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2015 #155

I saw that once! I really got a laugh out of that. nt Nay Jun 2015 #156

If we want to win in 2016, we need people to vote justiceischeap May 2015 #62

Are you suggesting the choice of candidates has no impact on turnout? Scuba May 2015 #63

That was rather confusing, wasn't it? kentuck May 2015 #71

I'm saying we could have the worst candidate in the world but if you get people excited to vote justiceischeap May 2015 #72

Don't you see the contradiction in your premise?? kentuck May 2015 #87

Obama was young and charismatic redstateblues May 2015 #117

oooops, the headline is just off Sheepshank May 2015 #69

he had a way with words, and a grasp on reality DrDan May 2015 #75

the reality is that same certainty was smugly expressed before AtomicKitten May 2015 #86

That is what campaigns are all about, may the best or most popular candidate win randys1 May 2015 #77

K & R Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #79

"The left is luke warm about her at best." So the many polls that show her with massive support Number23 May 2015 #94

I know right. KMOD May 2015 #102

Pardner, you know this place is a bubble... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #109

I think if you added up all the minorities (black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab etc.) on DU together Number23 May 2015 #114

That was no socialite, that was Pauline Kael, a film critic, and that's also not what she said. Bluenorthwest May 2015 #115

Even if it was apocryphal it expresses a larger truth. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #116

That's because of name recognition and the fact that most people don't pay as close attention cui bono May 2015 #144

I'm confused... Koinos May 2015 #128

Yes, conservatives and Republicans will be a little nicer to Bernie and go a little easier on him bluestateguy May 2015 #129

I'm Not Lukewarm! Gamecock Lefty May 2015 #135

Minorities etc. chev52 May 2015 #141

If Bernie won the nomination and got elected ... DrBulldog May 2015 #142

And by win, it's not only the election. The country wins if Bernie wins. cui bono May 2015 #143

as much as id like to see bernie win he wont rdking647 May 2015 #147

So if the right hates you just surrender workinclasszero May 2015 #150