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Old and In the Way

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151. Sorry, but you know a lot less about this than most issues you comment on.

Thu May 21, 2015, 12:07 AM

May 2015

Here is what Tom Brady thinks. I want a football on the softer side of NFL Regs.....that'11.5 psi. Below that it becomes an issie throwing and catching. There is a point where low pressure effects throwing and catching, right? Brady may well like his footballs under the Wilson recommended limit. Some ( like Aaron Rodgers) like over the recommended limit by Wilson. So fucking what? If the QB thinks he has a cometitive advantage at whatever the recommended psi, it should be his call....he is the person throwing the goddam ball...no no else.

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*ahem* [View all] WilliamPitt May 2015 OP

Good one. virgogal May 2015 #1

Cheating is still morally wrong. Not as morally wrong as the other crimes. Coventina May 2015 #2

Thst was my thought libodem May 2015 #22

but I think Will's OP makes the point that none of those players was suspended for as long as Brady CreekDog May 2015 #25

for the record, roethlisberger was suspended for four games (like Brady) and peterson for 14 fishwax May 2015 #34

Good points CreekDog May 2015 #54

+1 one_voice May 2015 #78

Especially the "maybe, probably, could have known," kind of cheating. 11 Bravo May 2015 #57

Is it morally wrong to accuse someone of cheating without a shred of evidence? amuse bouche May 2015 #67

no. it is an opinion. seabeyond May 2015 #69

LOL! You're adorable! Coventina May 2015 #87

In your wildest dreams, you could not tell the diff of footballs amuse bouche May 2015 #88

Well, then you need to have that argument with the NFL Coventina May 2015 #91

lol amuse bouche May 2015 #92

You really should go into comedy. I've never given the NFL one cent. Coventina May 2015 #96

Why do you people do this? Brady's own words describe the differences in footballs R B Garr May 2015 #93

Well 'you people' got nothing amuse bouche May 2015 #97

It's actually you who has nothing. Brady stonewalled giving over evidence R B Garr May 2015 #103

Oh man, do 'you people' play dense or are you dense? amuse bouche May 2015 #108

Reality: here they are talking about how the refs fucked them by R B Garr May 2015 #109

The worker wants gifts because he's just a jerk not because he's covering anything up amuse bouche May 2015 #110

Well, then, Brady could have cleared this all up, couldn't he? R B Garr May 2015 #115

It's pretty simple. Brady's lawyer told him not to turn the phone over amuse bouche May 2015 #118

Now you've changed the point to deflect. Tom could have exonerated himself R B Garr May 2015 #120

Repeating your same nonsense over and over doesn't make it true amuse bouche May 2015 #123

What's nonsense is Brady refusing to cooperate to clear his name, R B Garr May 2015 #124

Nope, Brady was interviewed extensively. Wonder why it hasn't been released? amuse bouche May 2015 #125

Reality: Tom Brady Suspension shows non-cooperation is a fumbled strategy R B Garr May 2015 #130

Sorry Bubba amuse bouche May 2015 #131

"bogus sting operation" R B Garr May 2015 #132

Pro tip R B Garr. Old and In the Way May 2015 #137

Wrong. The Brady Bunch knows the NFL doesn't want the negative publicity R B Garr May 2015 #145

You are going to be so unhaapy when, in a real court of law, Brady is found 'not guilty' Old and In the Way May 2015 #138

LOL, listen, Tom already told us this wasn't ISIS, so unless someone R B Garr May 2015 #144

"Fancy pants lawyers" really? Old and In the Way May 2015 #146

Lol, I have no team, so I can like whomever I want. Bottom line: R B Garr May 2015 #147

Curious, how much of your own personal life would you turn over to the NFL? Old and In the Way May 2015 #152

That's not even what happened. R B Garr May 2015 #157

You're not going to like this: R B Garr May 2015 #149

It's been really hilarious watching the Pats fans on this board lose it. Coventina May 2015 #98

It has been very funny. I'm laughing for so many reasons at the take-down R B Garr May 2015 #105

Cheating also undermines the sportsmanship myth used to excuse all those crimes. n/t Orsino May 2015 #116

Yup... Agschmid May 2015 #3

Lame. babylonsister May 2015 #4

Yes, thank you. pa28 May 2015 #5

I heard a wise man say: "If yain't cheatin', yain't tryin'." n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #6

What? Are they all in prison now? postulater May 2015 #7

Lol. Agschmid May 2015 #40

That is a good one... bluegopher May 2015 #8

" it should say deflater or air pressure decreaser. " amuse bouche May 2015 #66

Remarkably irrelevant. FlatBaroque May 2015 #9

What loser team do you relate to? nt Old and In the Way May 2015 #139

why do you care? FlatBaroque May 2015 #140

Because you care so much to comment! Old and In the Way May 2015 #142

I'll just let you cogitate on that tonight pardner FlatBaroque May 2015 #143

But what loser team do you support? Old and In the Way May 2015 #159

LOL. He's not as bad as OJ Simpson, either. Nye Bevan May 2015 #10

Criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal, cheater. Iggo May 2015 #11

Please show me where Brady told someone to inflate the footballs amuse bouche May 2015 #65

That is the problem right there. Old and In the Way May 2015 #77

Finally, a voice of reason amuse bouche May 2015 #82

Have you seen this? amuse bouche May 2015 #126

I envy Brady. Old and In the Way May 2015 #141

Haven't you heard, Kraft is not contesting this anymore . . . brush May 2015 #158

I'm agreeing with what the graphic implies. Iggo May 2015 #94

"crimes" ? amuse bouche May 2015 #95

Let's count to six, shall we? Iggo May 2015 #99

First of all, I'm not your son. Not even close amuse bouche May 2015 #100

Ah, the nebulous "many here." Iggo May 2015 #101

Hey, where's Aaron Hernandez? (n/m) ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #12

Very conspicuous absence. NuclearDem May 2015 #19

What about Michael Vick? BrotherIvan May 2015 #21

I heard that Aron deflated the footballs. Old and In the Way May 2015 #148

Cheating sucks. cwydro May 2015 #13

Another pitiful Pats fan. redstateblues May 2015 #14

Really. You are defending cheating. Luminous Animal May 2015 #15

This "cheating" is so trivial that it makes a mockery of the whole NFL "process"... First Speaker May 2015 #16

I disagree. bvar22 May 2015 #61

Are you saying that the balls were <8-1/2 lbs of psi? Old and In the Way May 2015 #150

Especially when you see how incompetent the so called investiagtion was amuse bouche May 2015 #128

Brady and Belichick are fucking cheaters. Deal with it. NuclearDem May 2015 #17

I wonder if that should be ... yuiyoshida May 2015 #18

Tom Brady KMOD May 2015 #20

So if Hillary defeats Bernie by a 38 point average... Purrfessor May 2015 #23

Try to follow the topic. Lil Missy May 2015 #26

This is absolutely on topic.... Purrfessor May 2015 #43

Creative rationalization followed by some colorful self-validation. Adorable. Simply adorable. LanternWaste May 2015 #56

You sound like a Patriots fan. Cute. Very cute. Purrfessor May 2015 #60

Well that got heavy... Fast. Agschmid May 2015 #41

You should oppose republicans with the same passion. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #46

I'm not opposing anyone... Purrfessor May 2015 #53

Sad ain't it amuse bouche May 2015 #24

It's only a game! But a substantial amount of money Duppers May 2015 #27

That would be cheater. Not air pressure. Cheater. Now let's address the obes seabeyond May 2015 #28

Sad isn't it. sheshe2 May 2015 #30

No, that would be 'no, you can't have my phone' amuse bouche May 2015 #31

Hell, you don't even need to go that far to make the comparison. You can compare apples to apples. hughee99 May 2015 #29

And sometime in 2007, the Patriots promised they would never ever, ever cheat again ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #36

I don't actually recall that promise. hughee99 May 2015 #38

Oh I think they do want Belicheat ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #48

So you think the nfl investigators aren't competent? hughee99 May 2015 #50

I think the paper trail ended at Brady ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #51

The Longest Yard Wounded Bear May 2015 #32

+1 Duppers May 2015 #33

"Air Pressure" should read " Cheating, lying about it and trying to cover it up" pkdu May 2015 #35

You gotta know what is really important. nt bemildred May 2015 #37

This is probably the best OP I've ever seen from you giftedgirl77 May 2015 #39

LOL PDittie May 2015 #44

Rapeball fans will excuse anything. nt RandiFan1290 May 2015 #42

Goodell Vows To Punish Whoever Responsible For Suspending Tom Brady PDittie May 2015 #45

Will - you're one of my favorite posters... Whiskeytide May 2015 #47

"Brady and the Pats cheated to win games" amuse bouche May 2015 #68

do you think a professional quarterback that has held a football for a good two or three decades seabeyond May 2015 #70

Exactly? You mean his hands are the same as a pressure gauge? amuse bouche May 2015 #71

It doesn't sound like you have dedicated yourself to a sport then. It is a given. Nt seabeyond May 2015 #73

" It is a given" amuse bouche May 2015 #74

no, a given. hold a football for three decades and you are gonna know everything about the feel of seabeyond May 2015 #85

Sorry, but you know a lot less about this than most issues you comment on. Old and In the Way May 2015 #151

except your reply has fuck all to do with what i said. that he has held the ball long enough to know seabeyond May 2015 #153

Again, respectively... Old and In the Way May 2015 #154

whatever, in the way seabeyond May 2015 #155

lol, your right on top of things! Old and In the Way May 2015 #156

Then you're not looking very closely. Whiskeytide May 2015 #76

No the texts do not nail them amuse bouche May 2015 #81

I think it's great that... Whiskeytide May 2015 #86

jealousy and envy are horrible attributes amuse bouche May 2015 #89

And I'm sure if any other team did this, you'd give them the benefit of the doubt. ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #111

Those are fightin' words... Whiskeytide May 2015 #121

The league is a joke alright amuse bouche May 2015 #127

So this analysis says Whiskeytide May 2015 #133

So very sorry your comprehension is missing the mark by 100% amuse bouche May 2015 #134

Yeah, that's what I thought too ... Whiskeytide May 2015 #135

Big difference in the images posted. NCTraveler May 2015 #49

Boston still sucks BeyondGeography May 2015 #52

man, the "isn't it funny that the only candidate defending women and minorities is an old male WASP? MisterP May 2015 #55

So�how about them Red Sox? n2doc May 2015 #58

So he is not a criminal, he is merely a cheater LondonReign2 May 2015 #59

A cheater? Please show me where he directed anyone to underinflate footballs amuse bouche May 2015 #72

(Cough Cough) Perhaps a bigger target for your outrage n2doc May 2015 #62

Since you're collecting pictures: Sheldon Cooper May 2015 #63

I think you just cwydro May 2015 #64

OMG, LOL, that is stunningly hilarious!! R B Garr May 2015 #75

BWAAAAHAHAHA ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #113

Biggest tipoff that this is BS from a Patriots fan is he leaves out Pat's star Aaron Hernandez doxyluv13 May 2015 #79

Oh, but MR KRAFT released Aaron as soon as he found out..... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #112

Sorry, Will. You've fallen into a class trap, the moral hazard of white collar crimes being excused whereisjustice May 2015 #80

And you have fallen into a media led frenzy with zero evidence amuse bouche May 2015 #83

Awesome. You made my point. Thank you for your near perfect example. whereisjustice May 2015 #84

"Most of us would have been fired" ... JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #102

Ball so soft ball so soft ball so soft ball so soft alcibiades_mystery May 2015 #90

Six offenders - One should be punished by the sport organization JustABozoOnThisBus May 2015 #104

Totally agree. Five criminals, one cheater. Iggo May 2015 #122

Shoeless Joe Jackson. Pete Rose. Lance Armstrong. Barry Bonds. Jose Canseco. bullwinkle428 May 2015 #106

Good point, and recced. Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #107

Why don't we have the criminal justice system actually punish criminals so they won't play.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2015 #114

First off, the justice system is so screwed up in this country that I wouldn't and Erich Bloodaxe BSN May 2015 #117

John Fugelsang nailed it on Twitter - TBF May 2015 #119

Only one is accused of cheating in an actual game. pnwmom May 2015 #129

LOL - defending Tom Shady? MaggieD May 2015 #136