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39. More manipulative corporate messaging. *Hillary* is the one who chose to start her campaign now.
Thu May 21, 2015, 03:16 AM
May 2015

See post 37. Hillary has no right to complain that anyone is forcing her to speak too early. *She* chose to declare her candidacy now.

For an honest candidate genuinely interested in representing voters, that would mean that it's time for her to be communicating with voters, laying out a clear agenda, and responding to questions about that agenda.

Instead, we get this manipulative campaign of talking points not only EXCUSING her hiding from voters, but twisting this utter lack of accountability to voters into some Orwellian noble act of circumventing a corrupt media.

What utter horseshit. If she were truly concerned about corrupt media, she would be doing exactly what Bernie is doing: Insisting on reaching voters despite them. Confronting the media publicly on their games and refusing to play them. Rejecting their framing and communicating about her agenda despite their attempts to impose other framing.

She is doing exactly the opposite. She is *using* them as an excuse to do what corporate candidates always do....insulate herself from voters and run a slick, vapid ad campaign instead.

This is why Bernie is such a breath of fresh air. He is reminding American citizens what we have a right to expect from candidates in a representative political process. He is laying out an agenda and making himself available to answer detailed questions about it. He is showing respect for voters and respect for his accountability to them as someone applying to be their representative. Slimy. arrogant games of avoidance like Hillary is playing out right now have become so commonplace in our corporate-corrupted system that people had *almost* forgotten what a real representative process is supposed to look like.

Almost.

But Bernie is reminding us. And by sheer contrast he is showing us how empty of content, how manipulative, and how full of contempt for us the election process has become in the hands of corporate politicians. This is the difference between real representation and corporate election theater.

Thank goodness we have Bernie. What a stunning contrast between democratic representation and the sham representation of oligarchy.

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Sorry, media, no one wants this horse race started 19 months out. JaneyVee May 2015 #1
More manipulative corporate messaging. *Hillary* is the one who chose to start her campaign now. woo me with science May 2015 #39
Spot on observations, Woo. 99Forever May 2015 #49
Yeah because spending time on the ground with voters... JaneyVee May 2015 #50
Is she attending 'open' events or only speaking to people handpicked by her campaign? peacebird May 2015 #57
I'm sure it's a mix of both. There is no way to gauge who is a supporter. JaneyVee May 2015 #58
It would be interesting to see what the screening process is for campaigns.... peacebird May 2015 #59
There's definitely secret service involved. JaneyVee May 2015 #60
For Hillary, of course. But for, say,Bernie, or O'Malley, or any of the R's (except maybe Jeb Bush)? peacebird May 2015 #61
Along with every other candidate... brooklynite May 2015 #51
... SidDithers May 2015 #52
Good read, kick. Agschmid May 2015 #2
Fuck the M$M. nt Rex May 2015 #3
The media is out to get Hillary but she will knows how to handle them. hrmjustin May 2015 #4
Her numbers are falling, others' are climbing. NYC_SKP May 2015 #5
What is the source of this chart? Thinkingabout May 2015 #7
When they won't give you the source, it's a reason to suspect it. MADem May 2015 #26
This doesn't jibe with current polling I've seen MaggieD May 2015 #14
Here ya go Flying Squirrel May 2015 #25
Bernie is 14.9 in the picture above MaggieD May 2015 #27
I'm agreeing with you that the picture above Flying Squirrel May 2015 #29
Thats because NYC_SKP poll is the NH primary... bunnies May 2015 #68
Agenda driven posting versus fact driven posting Blue_Adept May 2015 #48
You took the words right out of my mouth MaggieD May 2015 #63
She was ask questions this week, they were not questions in which can reveal her agenda, same Thinkingabout May 2015 #6
It's a sticky widget. Raine1967 May 2015 #8
And if you goad the media 1939 May 2015 #47
It's a little early in her campaign to be worried about the media's feelings. KMOD May 2015 #9
That explains why they're treating her like royalty Doctor_J May 2015 #10
The less exposure is actually benefiting Bernie.. eloydude May 2015 #11
Next to Bernie's openness, the more she looks like a coward ducking scrutiny. AtomicKitten May 2015 #19
Bernie is "beating down the media"... Agschmid May 2015 #44
she is under no obligation to acknowledge that pack of jackals, who should be digging up TPP msongs May 2015 #12
LOL - I must be a genius MaggieD May 2015 #13
Oh my god YOU'RE A GENIUS!!!!! BrotherIvan May 2015 #15
It would be more satisfying... MaggieD May 2015 #20
I know right BrotherIvan May 2015 #22
It's not "me" you don't get MaggieD May 2015 #24
Do tell BrotherIvan May 2015 #28
You did say that.. and, it's only logical.. but, those grasping at any angle.. want her to give Cha May 2015 #17
Good analysis MaggieD May 2015 #21
"Hillary is doing exactly the right thing by focusing directly on voters," said a former Democratic Cha May 2015 #32
MS. Clinton is being very wise azureblue May 2015 #33
Well said AndreaCG May 2015 #69
GMTA. The media has devolved into a pack of sharks sniffing for chum & this is way early.... Hekate May 2015 #31
I'm thinking she has the experience with the US corpmedia to know better and perhaps learned from Cha May 2015 #34
It's obvious, Maggie and was so from the beginning. leftofcool May 2015 #41
Bernie Sanders, has pledged not to go negative,' because he's against giving the WH to the GOP... freshwest May 2015 #16
Every time I see something about Clinton on the MSM it's stupid stuff about emails and money. betsuni May 2015 #18
You should catch this thread.... MaggieD May 2015 #23
Thanks, hadn't seen that. Yeah, you put that thread to bed and tucked it in tight. betsuni May 2015 #30
more work azureblue May 2015 #35
Oh darn! I missed that one. leftofcool May 2015 #42
I love Gwen Ifill too. Your rendition of her guests is spot on, LOL. nt Hekate May 2015 #36
MANIPULATION VS. REPRESENTATION....Why would a "candidate" from the oligarchy need the media? woo me with science May 2015 #37
Off the deep end. Agschmid May 2015 #45
No, not off the "deep end" at all. We live in oligarchy now....But you know that. woo me with science May 2015 #46
If you took some time to read Third Way stand on the issues you just might like them, if you Thinkingabout May 2015 #53
I'd say you're tearing the mask off but Nuclear Unicorn May 2015 #67
Your posts are so thoroughly informative and contributory to the learning process. FlatBaroque May 2015 #64
I try... Agschmid May 2015 #66
I don't think I have ever read any journalist or commentor FlatBaroque May 2015 #65
Quote from MalcomX on the "media".. Cha May 2015 #38
Inviting "Breathless" GOP Candidate Coverage? daredtowork May 2015 #40
If Hillary doesn't need the media how is she going to spend all that money? nt bemildred May 2015 #43
It is a great decision by her. NCTraveler May 2015 #54
The MSM has mercifully been diminished in this country BeyondGeography May 2015 #55
Ignore the media, ignore your critics within the Party - a prescription for defeat. leveymg May 2015 #56
Funny seeing Bernie fans taking the MSM/Fox"news"/teabag side workinclasszero May 2015 #62
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