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rogerashton

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20. That's the strongest point against her, I agree.

Thu May 21, 2015, 07:14 AM

May 2015

It is a result of her "leadership style." Remember how things were in 2003. There was opposition to the war (me for one but I am a nobody) but a big majority drank the Kool-Aid, so Hillary "led" the majority in drinking it. With Hillary, it is up to us: if we can't bring the majority over to our side, she will "lead" them to the dark side. And if we can't bring the majority over to our side, Bernie will not get the nomination, or, if nominated and elected, will be hung out alone and even more powerless in office than Obama. I think a lot of the criticisms of Hillary, and of Barack for that matter, should be directed back at us, the Democratic left, for out inability to get our ideas out to the undecided and uncommitted. Let's quit kvetching and fight for our candidates, be they Hillary, or Bernie or -- let's see, does O'Malley go by Martin or Marty?

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I'm for Bernie, but we need to give Hillary her props. [View all] rogerashton May 2015 OP

No, we don't need to give Hillary "her" props just because she's constantly in the way. True Blue Door May 2015 #1

I couldn't have said it better if I tried madokie May 2015 #2

Voters on the ground disagree with you. JaneyVee May 2015 #3

Voters are unfamiliar with anything other than her name. True Blue Door May 2015 #4

You really think you're any better or your vote counts anymore than... JaneyVee May 2015 #7

Everyone can only ever speak for themselves. True Blue Door May 2015 #8

You could support Bernie in a positive way... Agschmid May 2015 #18

He thinks belittling the people who already like and admire hillary ... JoePhilly May 2015 #23

Are you saying that 86% of the Democrats who support her are dumb? leftofcool May 2015 #29

Sorry, recent polls now show a major drop.. 49%!!!! eloydude May 2015 #32

All she is doing is Unknown Beatle May 2015 #9

"Voters are unfamiliar with anything other than her name"??? brooklynite May 2015 #14

Bernie says he doesn't want his campaign to be about attacking Hillary. You are rejecting his stevenleser May 2015 #25

Oh Bullshit. On point #1: okaawhatever May 2015 #15

agreed. I am for bernie because I don't believe in coronations. Her 25 million roguevalley May 2015 #5

I take it from your screen name that you live in SW Oregon. rogerashton May 2015 #17

I was raised there and it isn't remote. its a hub for the region roguevalley May 2015 #31

Respectfully disagree. I see Hillary as a very poor choice for President. Maedhros May 2015 #6

Well, I am for Bernie. rogerashton May 2015 #10

I get the impression that Hillary, like Obama, will say whatever we want to hear Maedhros May 2015 #11

I don't think you are quite fair to Obama there. rogerashton May 2015 #19

The list of President Obama's complete reversal of Candidate Obama's promises Maedhros May 2015 #22

I'll flip it the other way. I'm for Clinton, but I'll give Sanders his props. NaturalHigh May 2015 #12

Thank you.. I don't have a candidate yet.. and I will give them all their props. Cha May 2015 #13

No, she does not deserve nor will get "props." AtomicKitten May 2015 #16

That's the strongest point against her, I agree. rogerashton May 2015 #20

I'll give Hillary what she's earned ... Martin Eden May 2015 #21

no we don't Robbins May 2015 #24

No, we don't. And this is primary season. She is not exempt. djean111 May 2015 #26

Absolutely! I WANT more fredamae May 2015 #27

Rec'd; no matter how you feel, you have to respect her BeyondGeography May 2015 #28

A four o' clock? Sounds more like a 4:20. winter is coming May 2015 #30