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brush

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7. We need to get out — the Muslims have to fix it themselves
Thu May 21, 2015, 08:49 PM
May 2015

Our presence only inflames the situation. The Sunnis and the Shia have been at each other's throats since Muhammad died thousands of years ago in terms of who was to be his successor.

Who are we to back anyway, the Sunnis or the Shia? If we back either sect the other is your enemy. That's a no-win situation.

I say we need to let the Muslims have their religious civil war just as Christianity and Judaism have had their multiple and violent schisms throughout history.

We can at best be neutral 'honest brokers' in perhaps helping to negotiate peace/borders/disputes.

They have to fix it themselves.

IMO Obama's foreign policy in the Middle East HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN NOT COMMITTING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TROOPS THERE.

Too some, not putting American lives at risk again in Iraq and Syria is somehow a failure.

Bush/Cheney/Bremer backed the Shia, got rid of the Ba'aths (Sunni), fired their military who reformed as ISIS when Maliki and the Shia shut them out of any role in postwar Iraq.

ISIS captured such huge swaths of land so quickly because their leaders are professional solders, the ex- generals and colonels of the fired Iraqi army.

Some successful policy Bush/Cheney had there. I don't blame Obama for not emulating it. We need to stay out but some are beating the war drums louder and louder and although he's resisting, we're slowly being drawn back into it.

Guess the warmongers won't be happy until more Americans are dying there.

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The fucking NERVE of war criminals to blame Obama randys1 May 2015 #1
The destruction of Iraq was a terrible thing. delrem May 2015 #2
Every congressman and senator that voted for the iraq war WDIM May 2015 #3
K&R Repukes are just pissed because they're not getting a Halliburton kickback from Cheney anymore Jeffersons Ghost May 2015 #4
The un-elected Bush made the disaster in the middle east. Dawson Leery May 2015 #5
He's 100% correct on this, as he has been all along. Thanks for finding this one. n/t freshwest May 2015 #6
We need to get out — the Muslims have to fix it themselves brush May 2015 #7
I don't like this post. delrem May 2015 #8
I agree with you, the post is deflective of American responsibility and European imperialism. Fred Sanders May 2015 #9
What does that mean? brush May 2015 #12
It's all over DU. delrem May 2015 #14
My post advocates the US getting out and not "bombing the fuck out of everyone" as you put it brush May 2015 #11
I think I perfectly understood your post, which exonerates the US delrem May 2015 #13
You're completely misinterpreting my posts brush May 2015 #15
Bullshit. Iraq's destruction does not pre-date US aggression. delrem May 2015 #17
I'm not denying that brush May 2015 #18
Yes, conflicts have happened, in the world, before the Bush/Cheney/Rumfeld wargmongers came in. delrem May 2015 #21
This is pointless. I'm done. nt brush May 2015 #22
"We can at best be neutral 'honest brokers' in perhaps helping to negotiate peace/borders/disputes" delrem May 2015 #23
"I’m very clear on the lessons of Iraq. I think it was a mistake for us to go in in the first Cha May 2015 #10
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria: ISIS delrem May 2015 #16
Your gibberish has nothing to do with the OP or my post. Cha May 2015 #19
I didn't think you'd have any concern whatsoever delrem May 2015 #20
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