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ucrdem

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56. Incidentally YOUR very first link is straight-up RW bullshit so I wouldn't give myself airs:
Fri May 22, 2015, 03:19 AM
May 2015

Another fine production of a Libertarian propaganda organ that dishonestly hides Bush-Cheney's catastrophic economic failure by conflating it with Bill and Barack's success:

"NAFTA at 20: One Million U.S. Jobs Lost, Higher Income Inequality"
Lori Wallach, Director, Public Citizen's Global Trade Watch
Posted: 01/06/2014


First of all, the article is linked to an online study that is mostly missing:

http://www.citizen.org/documents/NAFTA-at-20.pdf

Yes I understand that docs sometimes get messed up but she's had nearly two years to fix it. I wonder why she hasn't.

Secondly, the entire premise of the report is that the state of the US economy of Jan. 1, 2014, can be ascribed to the passage of NAFTA in 1993. It cannot. The torpid mess we've been living for the last 15 years is the result of BUSH-CHENEY policies, not Bills, not Barack's. This is so dishonest on the face I can't believe anyone would have the nerve to post it here. It shouldn't need to be explained but since you made nasty remarks I suppose I'm obliged to point out that the premises of your argument are pure right wing propaganda. If you want to see how NAFTA really shook out see the graphs posted here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026700031

and here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=6703062

No net US job loss, no "downward pressure" on wages, steady decreases in unemployment, and steady increases in US employment, for the six straight years after NAFTA went into effect on Jan. 1 1994 -- until Bill Clinton left office. THEN the US economy including employment went straight into the toilet. But keep pointing fingers at other DUers instead of owning up to your own eagerness to believe RW lies.

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thanks for creating a great resource thread, elwood. cali May 2015 #1
K & fricking R. yourout May 2015 #2
K&R There is a difference between jobs and corporate profits and power. jwirr May 2015 #3
K&FuckingR...... daleanime May 2015 #4
DURec! bvar22 May 2015 #5
One of the mysteries. Enthusiast May 2015 #21
Why is this so F*ing hard to understand for some people. Phlem May 2015 #6
True. It can only be said that the 99% did well under Clinton after NAFTA, not that NAFTA caused it. pampango May 2015 #7
That can't be said either Mnpaul May 2015 #9
Jobs (manufacturing and overall) and wages (manufacturing and overall) rose and unemployment fell. pampango May 2015 #10
Manufacturing output went up Mnpaul May 2015 #12
The number of manufacturing jobs went up too. pampango May 2015 #15
This could be due to... Mnpaul May 2015 #18
We can speculate as to why manufacturing employment rose but rise it did. n/t pampango May 2015 #19
That was (and still is) a lot of our manufacturing output Recursion May 2015 #58
Proving how deceptive statistics can be depending on their context. JDPriestly May 2015 #44
excellent read blackspade May 2015 #8
There's a lot baloney in your source list. ucrdem May 2015 #11
I'm sure you would rather I post some of YOUR favorite links such as........ Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #13
If you get in the habit of making stuff up ucrdem May 2015 #14
Could you reference times when ucrdem has linked to any of those sites? pampango May 2015 #17
Thank you. nt ucrdem May 2015 #57
+1,000,000 .... Trajan May 2015 #51
Incidentally YOUR very first link is straight-up RW bullshit so I wouldn't give myself airs: ucrdem May 2015 #56
. ucrdem May 2015 #59
Public Citizen is right wing bullshit? Just how low can you go? The right wingers hate Public Citzen Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #60
K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #16
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #20
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A couple of the usual suspects finally jumped in as usual. Elwood P Dowd May 2015 #31
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