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eridani

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Fri May 22, 2015, 04:23 AM May 2015

Why We Need to Take Sy Hersh’s bin Laden Bombshell Seriously [View all]

http://www.thenation.com/article/207785/why-we-need-take-sy-hershs-bin-laden-bombshell-seriously

Now, thanks to the indefatigable Seymour Hersh, the dean of American investigative journalists, we may have gotten a glimpse into just how complicated those relations are. In a 10,000-word blockbuster in the London Review of Books, Hersh unfurls an astounding counternarrative about the May 2, 2011, raid that killed Osama bin Laden. Hersh dismantles the official story, challenging virtually everything that’s been said about the attack on the Abbottabad compound by Special Operations commandos, including the fictionalized version in Kathryn Bigelow’s nail-biter Zero Dark Thirty and the avalanche of commentary from self-styled terrorism experts, including CNN’s Peter Bergen.

According to Hersh, the United States didn’t find bin Laden by diligently sifting intelligence data and tracking an alleged courier, but because a Pakistani defector walked into the US embassy in Islamabad and told the CIA that Al Qaeda’s chief was holed up in Abbottabad. Nor was bin Laden hiding—instead, says Hersh, he had been captured by the ISI in 2006 and was being held prisoner. Pakistan, called out on its deception, then opted to cooperate with Washington in a staged raid on bin Laden’s prison, withdrawing guards and clearing the airspace for US helicopters, Hersh writes. Nor was there a heroic firefight; instead, US forces executed bin Laden, an ailing invalid, in a hail of gunfire.

Hersh’s story, if true, explains two big mysteries about the 2011 operation: Why was bin Laden in a compound smack in the middle of Pakistan’s military and intelligence establishment, rather than in Waziristan or some village in Yemen? And given his location, is it really possible ISI didn’t know where he was? Back in 2009, during her first visit to Pakistan as secretary of state, Hillary Clinton stunned her hosts by saying, “I find it hard to believe that nobody in your government knows where [bin Laden and other Al Qaeda leaders] are.” (Yet, two years later, just weeks after the 2011 raid, Clinton reversed herself, insisting that Washington had “absolutely no evidence that anyone at the highest level of the Pakistani government” had known bin Laden’s whereabouts. If Hersh is right, Clinton’s second comment was part of an official cover story.
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Why is this important? pnwmom May 2015 #1
And a country with a lot of complicated and shifting internal factions Recursion May 2015 #2
Links have been posted here with articles by journalists Mojorabbit May 2015 #40
Do you mind if I roll my eyes? Recursion May 2015 #41
No because it was exactly what I expected from you! nt Mojorabbit May 2015 #42
dupe Mojorabbit May 2015 #42
It's important because this is.... MaggieD May 2015 #3
You got that right. randome May 2015 #14
list them all- Parry, Palast, Bernstein, Rather, etc reddread May 2015 #21
Sorry, I'm only talking about Hersh, whose career seems to be paralleling Bernstein's. randome May 2015 #25
New Yorker, FTR OilemFirchen May 2015 #44
Exactly - the end justifies all means gratuitous May 2015 #24
It's important to me because our Gov't was not honest. dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #29
BINGO! You can't build Democracy on lies. Octafish May 2015 #33
EXACTLY !!! - And Some People Are Pefectly Comfortable With Being Lied To... WillyT May 2015 #35
EXACTLY grasswire May 2015 #52
I like Hersh and have always admired his journalism but in this case, I don't think he published OregonBlue May 2015 #38
And here come the authoritarian "intelligence experts" whatchamacallit May 2015 #4
Like Forrest Gump's shrimp menu reddread May 2015 #5
It is all so sad and predictable. Vattel May 2015 #11
Yep... "What's The Big Deal ?" Abouth The Government Lying... WillyT May 2015 #39
Abu Grahib. dixiegrrrrl May 2015 #58
Hey! We got bin Laden!! FlatBaroque May 2015 #12
I don't get why it matters. Sounds like "Benghazi" to me. Hoyt May 2015 #6
Post 11 was written for people like you. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #13
Heck, that's worse than the OP. That doesn't answer why it matters. Hoyt May 2015 #23
Here is one very important reason why this is important. TM99 May 2015 #7
It will be proven when there is, you know, proof. Or even evidence. randome May 2015 #16
So you have access to all the same sourses that Hersh had. interesting. nt Javaman May 2015 #26
If Hersh wants to be believed, he needs to publish evidence, not hearsay. randome May 2015 #31
LOL Javaman May 2015 #50
if true, we really do live in Orwell's world PowerToThePeople May 2015 #8
The only reason the Nation wants to take it seriously is it could potentially hurt Clinton wyldwolf May 2015 #9
Do regale us with tales of your advanced Bullshit Detector. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #17
Irrelevant reply wyldwolf May 2015 #19
That's right. Run away. Run away. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #20
That's right change the subject change the subject wyldwolf May 2015 #48
ahh yes, a well thought out retort. Javaman May 2015 #28
It doesn't take much thought to reply to irrelevant reply wyldwolf May 2015 #49
and again, attacking me rather than giving facts Javaman May 2015 #51
you seem concerned stonecutter357 May 2015 #10
Wait; would this be revelation of a.....government conspiracy?? WinkyDink May 2015 #15
Opus Dei. JaneyVee May 2015 #18
I don't believe anything.. sendero May 2015 #22
Though Hersh may have gotten a sentence right does not make his story correct. Thinkingabout May 2015 #27
It's all part of the grand narrative... CanSocDem May 2015 #30
Never seen a claim that bin Laden single-handedly did anything. OilemFirchen May 2015 #45
The facts in this report did not hold up to scrutiny Gothmog May 2015 #32
It holds up better that you think. Maedhros May 2015 #53
R.J. Hillhouse in 2011: ''The story of how bin Laden was found is fiction'' Octafish May 2015 #55
Unfortunately, the authoritarians will bow to whatever the Leader Figure says. Maedhros May 2015 #56
As those on the ends of the teeter totter glare at each other, the crooks get away with the cash. Octafish May 2015 #57
k and r nashville_brook May 2015 #34
The Nation should be embarrassed for printing such nonsense. tritsofme May 2015 #36
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #37
that also lines up with Bhutto saying he was dead by '07: when someone's "diasppeared" MisterP May 2015 #46
Anonymous retired Pakistani intelligence officer is his source? redstateblues May 2015 #47
See post #53. Maedhros May 2015 #54
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