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In reply to the discussion: Hillary was liberal, Hillary IS Liberal [View all]jeff47
(26,549 posts)167. Then you're arguing for Bernie or O'Malley or Clinton. Not just Clinton.
Given the electoral landscape in 2016 (Dem needs 1 swing state, Rep needs all 10 plus turn a "blue" state), any of them can win.
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"Being liberal" needs more specifics on what is measured. As an example Hillary is NOT liberal...
cascadiance
May 2015
#2
I guess it is still too hard for you to deal with specific "liberal" issues...
cascadiance
May 2015
#34
I agree, tho more applicable to Hillary would be WAS an triangulater, IS a triangulater and WILL ALWAYS BE a triangulater...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2015
#155
we NEED a democrat. this is where populist is skewed batshit crazy. we NEED a democrat. we
seabeyond
May 2015
#161
Well according to a lot of people on DU, economics doesn't matter, only social justice matters.
cui bono
May 2015
#117
I do think stuff like this might - maybe - be useful if Hillary wins the nomination
djean111
May 2015
#4
"lesser evil thing" just intellectually stupid and dishonest. if one needs to argue that, then
seabeyond
May 2015
#7
When much of Hillary criticism is countered with "SAY HELLO TO PRESIDENT CRUZ", I would have to
djean111
May 2015
#138
when equating repug the same as clinton, i question your democratic position, yes.
seabeyond
May 2015
#145
what a convoluted argument. and a whole lot of wtf. we need a dem... 2016. that is the argument
seabeyond
May 2015
#163
"Then you're arguing for Bernie or O'Malley or Clinton." correct. as i have said, repeatedly.
seabeyond
May 2015
#172
are you another, in this now often heard meme, not voting clinton if she wins?
seabeyond
May 2015
#14
mmmm, so this is a fuck you, to all the people whose lives matter with this election.
seabeyond
May 2015
#20
and you in turn, say fuck you to the women and girls whose lives are at stake.
seabeyond
May 2015
#23
save my breathe to appease your want? no. not when lives matter. you feel your little sec flash of
seabeyond
May 2015
#30
awfully cavalier with our women and girls lives. and you all are the good guys?
seabeyond
May 2015
#37
our girls and women are dying. it will get worse. they are being inPRISONED because of
seabeyond
May 2015
#165
If you are so concerned about that issue, why repeat what you already know failed?
jeff47
May 2015
#168
i KNOW obama's supreme court picks. i do not see a fail. that you do, shows you are not even
seabeyond
May 2015
#173
Do you really believe that Hillary is the only Dem candidate that cares about women and girls' lives
cui bono
May 2015
#259
so. you turn your back on the lives of women and girls, and claim the high road.
seabeyond
May 2015
#278
If lives matter so much, make sure the Dems get a candidate people can get excited about.
cui bono
May 2015
#120
IF lives matter so much? so, if you do not get one you want, then you can walk from those lives?
seabeyond
May 2015
#147
I'm not going to vote for someone who isn't fighting for the 99%, who supports the banksters
cui bono
May 2015
#179
Clinton is extremely similar to Obama and his policies are moderate Republican policies.
cui bono
May 2015
#263
K & R, really good post. Hillary has been advocating for Democrat platform issues for a long time.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#279
i am talking to the people that state they will NOT vote clinton if she wins. i think i make that
seabeyond
May 2015
#265
I didn't think it was clear. What was clear is my saying I will not vote for her since my state is
cui bono
May 2015
#266
i have only said it about ten times in this thread. you found ONE post i didnt clarify? my bad
seabeyond
May 2015
#267
if we lose the surpeme court, we will lose more women and girls lives. more imprisonment
seabeyond
May 2015
#233
i have to wonder your obsession ignoring the importance of supr crt for our girls and women.
seabeyond
May 2015
#238
that is totally irrelevant. my goal is to elect a dem. you want an argument about clinton,
seabeyond
May 2015
#241
again. that has nothing to do with anything. we have three very old. we need to be in position
seabeyond
May 2015
#243
You're arguing about court appointees to control the court, and you try to
Exilednight
May 2015
#244
it is simple. we do need control in supreme court. do you have an issue with that also?
seabeyond
May 2015
#245
Well if you find joy in losing, then the 2016 election should be positively gleeful for you. nt
okaawhatever
May 2015
#131
want? maybe a handful. mostly, can care less about women and girls for their own self interest.
seabeyond
May 2015
#148
we are comparing past kills with present and future kills of our women and girls and black men?
seabeyond
May 2015
#204
ok. now polly. how about THIS country we live in and govern. you think we might focus on our dead
seabeyond
May 2015
#206
You said, the PAST, dismissing the horror those women and girls are facing today.
polly7
May 2015
#207
ivasion of iraq is the past. hence my discussion. i am NOT comparing kills. i do not know how much
seabeyond
May 2015
#209
The invasion has spawned a whole region of horror. It is not in the past - the results are being
polly7
May 2015
#211
as YOU said, ... iraq invasion! and as i said to molly, i will not compare deaths....
seabeyond
May 2015
#210
LMAO ... molly. That's a few times you've done that now. It's 'polly'. Tricky! nt.
polly7
May 2015
#213
if people advocate not to vote clinton if she wins primary, if they do not vote, they work toward
seabeyond
May 2015
#216
not, clearly. your agenda driven. you and others dismiss our girls and womens lives and imprisonment
seabeyond
May 2015
#235
No, Seabeyond. It's not a focus on one to the exclusion of the other thing...
Violet_Crumble
May 2015
#280
if hillary wins the primary, NOT voting. that is the issue vc. not primary, not two candidates.
seabeyond
May 2015
#281
And odn't forget the women in our own armed forces raped by their fellow servicemen.
cui bono
May 2015
#268
Ya know; if there were ever a group of posts that seemed paid for...
cherokeeprogressive
May 2015
#17
Just an observation, not an accusation. You however, may feel free to infer whatever you like.
cherokeeprogressive
May 2015
#39
I was gonna say I know a lobbyist for Monsanto but I got nothin' really. n/t
cherokeeprogressive
May 2015
#107
She's a self-proclaimed "job provider" (her words and language not often used around here).
stillwaiting
May 2015
#137
The problem that I have with you is how over-the-top you are with your mocking and
stillwaiting
May 2015
#200
You do come from a place of financial privilege. I didn't say anything about your upbringing.
stillwaiting
May 2015
#220
I wouldn't bet a red cent on that. You're going to do what you enjoy doing.
stillwaiting
May 2015
#222
You're deluding yourself if you think that sitting out the election means you're not assisting
pnwmom
May 2015
#128
I won't be sitting out the election. I will simply not be voting for the president.
cui bono
May 2015
#129
you and others are just creating a campaign that is more and more exclusive. and you do not get it.
seabeyond
May 2015
#152
i do not care a hoot about your enthusiasm. i expect a democrat to support the democratic party.
seabeyond
May 2015
#185
You do understand that 'enthusiasm' and 'excitement' mean that the candidate lives up
cui bono
May 2015
#190
i understand that live are at stake this election. there are those casually dismissing lives.
seabeyond
May 2015
#196
"i expect a democrat to support the democratic party." you get you are on a democratic board, right?
seabeyond
May 2015
#250
They were great days but the 2010 one was better because we got marriage equality the day before.
hrmjustin
May 2015
#57
Yes and, that is why I here so many Rs in my area say they like Hillary and would vote for her.
Hiraeth
May 2015
#177
I believe that people who are smart enough in life but are willing to sell out...
MrMickeysMom
May 2015
#38
I'd say she's center-left, which puts her in the mainstream of Democratic voters and policy makers..
brooklynite
May 2015
#166
A liberal by the definition adopted by members of the board who say Hillary isn't one
treestar
May 2015
#255
You can't determine how liberal someone is through a mathematical equation.
Bjorn Against
May 2015
#85
The profoundly conservative business of the Senate still fails as a measure of liberalism.
Orsino
May 2015
#164
here is the thing, all you that immediately jumped on my ass cause i called populist...
seabeyond
May 2015
#170
they get to own walking away from the lives of our girls and boys, if they chose to not vote 2016
seabeyond
May 2015
#287
you would respect lying? what the fuck ever. i think that says all about your agenda. anyway
seabeyond
May 2015
#289
except i am not calling you a liar, telling you what you think, and demanding you abide by my story.
seabeyond
May 2015
#291