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In reply to the discussion: Why would Obama go along with this "secrecy" stuff?? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)24. He's either stupid, corrupt or thinks international talks are usually done in secret.
Even his fiercest opponents don't think he is stupid but those seem to be the three alternatives.
Doesn't our Congress have a right to know what they are voting upon ??
If they were voting now on the TPP sight-unseen I would agree. They are voting on TPA which is the procedure for congress to follow if or when a final TPP is ever agreed to. If and when that ever happens, congress will vote up or down on the specific TPP agreed to and they will know what they are voting on.
AFAIK, most international agreements are not amendable by congress which just gets to approve or reject them. If congress were the American 'decider' on the text of international agreements, other countries would want to negotiate these agreements directly with congress rather than with the president. Why bargain for years with a president just to have congress be able to renegotiate the whole thing? Just cut to the chase and negotiate with congress directly in the first place and ignore the president.
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Maybe some Americans are uncomfortable with how others are way too comfortable...
MrMickeysMom
May 2015
#13
nearly every level of social strata has the numbing effects of pop culture aimed at it..
TimeToEvolve
May 2015
#15
You do realize that treaty negotiations are virtually always done in secret right?
mythology
May 2015
#14
He's either stupid, corrupt or thinks international talks are usually done in secret.
pampango
May 2015
#24