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polly7

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52. We had a boy in our town, it started when he was about 14,

Fri May 22, 2015, 12:23 PM

May 2015

who would watch and follow us, pleasuring himself openly with that crazy smile. I couldn't go to school, my job at the swimming pool, even for a horse ride without hearing him come up on his motorbike to stop and watch me when I got there, and doing it. Freaky. He never got help, or was charged with anything, and went on to become a lawyer, only to be disbarred years later and in big legal trouble for fondling a young girl - I don't know the exact circumstances, his sister didn't tell me everything. He married and had three daughters - I don't know either if anything happened at home, but for some reason his wife and girls were always a bit ostracized - that, in a small town, is something. They were very nice people (not him, he never comes out), but I've always felt sad for them at being left out. He definitely was/is a sexual predator.

That these parents never got, imo, 'real help' for any of their children is what I find the most awful. Christian counseling and prayer will not change a mind that's damaged, from whatever reason.

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Should a 14 year old be labeled a 'sexual predator'? [View all] B2G May 2015 OP

He is 27. nt tridim May 2015 #1

Yes, but he was 14-15 when this occurred. B2G May 2015 #11

Uh, when I was 14, I knew that feeling up my sister was badly wrong. MineralMan May 2015 #55

A 14 year old is old enough to know right from wrong. In_The_Wind May 2015 #2

Should 14 year old criminals be tried as adults? 11 Bravo May 2015 #38

I think that depends on the crime and the state in which it happened. In_The_Wind May 2015 #48

How does the state in which it occurred have any bearing on ... 11 Bravo May 2015 #67

My feelings, yes, a 14 year old should be treated as an adult in criminal hearings. In_The_Wind May 2015 #68

seriously? Kali May 2015 #77

Well then, we simply disagree. 11 Bravo May 2015 #92

That's alright. I promise not to hold a grudge against you over our disagreement. In_The_Wind May 2015 #94

That's about the age that run-ins with the law give evidence to anti-social personalty dx's HereSince1628 May 2015 #74

To answer your question: perhaps. In_The_Wind May 2015 #84

The defense argument is one of those girls was schizophrenic HereSince1628 May 2015 #86

I'm not a doctor so that was just the way I see things. In_The_Wind May 2015 #87

It depends on the offense. Shoplifting? maybe not. mainer May 2015 #99

Yes, serious of a criminal behavior weighs... but the issue is evidence of conduct disorder HereSince1628 May 2015 #100

Justice is about a number of things el_bryanto May 2015 #3

If the circumstances warrant it -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2015 #4

I agree that the repeated incidents is a big factor. B2G May 2015 #8

Yes. CBGLuthier May 2015 #5

And should we apply labels based on anything a Duggar claims? n/t Orsino May 2015 #6

Are all "Duggars" inherently evil? Or just unbelievable? n/t cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #10

"Decency" crusades of all stripes are always, without exception, distractions. No exceptions. Orsino May 2015 #98

All of them? Even the youngest? cherokeeprogressive May 2015 #102

Both. n/t Hepburn May 2015 #104

He was 14-15 and then he re-offended later. KitSileya May 2015 #7

Agree. nt B2G May 2015 #9

and if I were his wife, I would be watching him like a hawk SoCalDem May 2015 #40

This is where I am at. Xyzse May 2015 #44

I agree. polly7 May 2015 #46

agree Kali May 2015 #78

The only reason why they took him in was to stem the flow of information. xmas74 May 2015 #75

No, but it probably depends on the extent and nature of the crimes. alarimer May 2015 #12

Yes, it is. kcr May 2015 #13

I don't think anyone is denying it. B2G May 2015 #15

I think trying to soft pedal it is a form of denial n/t kcr May 2015 #16

I am not soft pedaling anything. nt B2G May 2015 #18

So you're not wondering whether he should be called a sexual predator? n/t kcr May 2015 #21

I am wondering if ANY 14 year old should be called that. B2G May 2015 #22

Yes. I'm sharing my viewpoint that sexual predation shouldn't be soft pedaled. You're right. kcr May 2015 #29

Again, I'm not advocating anything B2G May 2015 #32

Advocate might be the wrong word, but you do seem to suggest they shouldn't be called predators kcr May 2015 #33

I have pretty thick skin B2G May 2015 #34

If he believed it was okay then he would have not waited until the dark of the night and sneak into Thinkingabout May 2015 #14

I'm not saying 14 isn't old enough to know right from wrong. B2G May 2015 #17

IF it was a one time occurrance, I may listen, it was not and it was not with one person and outside Thinkingabout May 2015 #31

Absolutely FLPanhandle May 2015 #19

i would like to see this handle rationally. i do not want to handle it like, men telling girls to seabeyond May 2015 #20

When one of his victims is a 5-year old SoCalNative May 2015 #23

5? I didn't realize the victims ages had been identified. B2G May 2015 #25

Unfortunately, LWolf May 2015 #24

That is just heartbreaking. B2G May 2015 #27

Most 14 yr old boys are fantacizing about girls a bit older than they are or ones near their own age SoCalDem May 2015 #41

No, it's not normal. LWolf May 2015 #70

Sad story :( polly7 May 2015 #43

That is the biggest key. nt LWolf May 2015 #72

Yes. My mom works with these types of kids professionally. Butterbean May 2015 #80

If the circumstances warrant, hell yes! hobbit709 May 2015 #26

If he's a sexual predator, then Yes. Iggo May 2015 #28

I'm not comfortable with it being applied in every case. cali May 2015 #30

immature/juvenile animals are predators if they prey on others. geek tragedy May 2015 #35

Whatever age he did it at is irrelevant. Arkana May 2015 #36

In this case, yes. polly7 May 2015 #37

no, but this does show a problem with way, way to many kids to raise. Sunlei May 2015 #39

He had no choice. The story was exposed by the media. They wanted it to stay hidden. (eom) StevieM May 2015 #61

Yes (nt) bigwillq May 2015 #42

If the shoe fits... GoCubsGo May 2015 #45

Im inclined to say yes, but open to special cases where it might not be appropriate. aikoaiko May 2015 #47

You MIGHT argue that a 14 year with a single instance doesn't deserve to be tagged... brooklynite May 2015 #49

What is the appropriateness of allowing a person with his background to attack LGBT people as being Bluenorthwest May 2015 #50

It's seems awfully young to molest even younger children while they are sleeping, too. cbayer May 2015 #51

We had a boy in our town, it started when he was about 14, polly7 May 2015 #52

My molestor started at the age of 11 justiceischeap May 2015 #53

At what age, then, is incest appropriate? misterhighwasted May 2015 #54

Why not? 14 year olds can accurately be labeled as "murderers" Tom Ripley May 2015 #56

Take "Duggar" out of the conversation get the red out May 2015 #57

Even if it was within a family or B2G May 2015 #62

The police knew and let him off because of who they are- same police is actually bettyellen May 2015 #66

Depends what the crime is Reter May 2015 #58

That is normal curiousity dbackjon May 2015 #60

No fadedrose May 2015 #59

IMHO, that's the wrong question. displacedtexan May 2015 #63

His victims are no less victims because of his age. Solly Mack May 2015 #64

I doubt there is an age where it is appropriate to rape your siblings and/or others. Rex May 2015 #65

I can't help but wonder TexasBushwhacker May 2015 #69

Only 14 yr olds who act as a sexual predator, then yes. Of course. uppityperson May 2015 #71

Read the police reports. xmas74 May 2015 #73

No, but the parents should be held responsible for creating a sick and twisted environment where a Pisces May 2015 #76

if they indeed are or behave as one, the label could be appropriate Kali May 2015 #79

Just send him to Juvenile Hall until he can process what happened to him...that's the real libdem4life May 2015 #81

How about the Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #82

In some cases,yes. Lizzie Poppet May 2015 #83

Yes. bravenak May 2015 #85

I believe child sex offenders can be rehabilitated Skittles May 2015 #88

By product of the way he was raised spinbaby May 2015 #89

I am a psychologist in a youth prison. MoonRiver May 2015 #90

The problem is we don't know much from the victims what he did, how often and when did it stop. We Jefferson23 May 2015 #91

Yes WestCoastLib May 2015 #93

The youngest victim was FIVE. LeftyMom May 2015 #95

Depends on the circumstances Marrah_G May 2015 #96

By 14 his parents should have already talked to him about sex. That talk should have included jwirr May 2015 #97

I know next to nothing about the Duggar situation. NaturalHigh May 2015 #101

14 is not 18 or 22 or 11 sammythecat May 2015 #103

This probably just the tip of ice iceberg. It stands to reason that most if not all of those girls leeroysphitz May 2015 #105

I've worked with juvenile sex offenders Nevernose May 2015 #106