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merrily

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Fri May 22, 2015, 11:48 AM

May 2015

On hearing a comment about schooling in New Hampshire recently, Hillary did say that she agreed with President Obama that tuition for a two year college should be free, but she said "as free as possible."

However, I did not buy it, any more than I buy the rest of her newly minted populism. We've seen and heard her in action for four decades.

Her big donors also have their doubts about her campaign rhetoric.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/04/hillary-clintons-wall-street-backers-we-get-it-117017.html

I believe that Goldman Sachs is still confident that Hillary will show them how to escape their long nightmare of an oppressive government plus a disapproving public and "gasp" the requirement to pay corporate income taxes now and again.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/06/hillary-clintons-goldman-sachs-problem

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/08/us/politics/economic-plan-is-a-quandary-for-hillary-clintons-campaign.html?_r=0

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Bernie Sanders' Bold, New Plan May Have Just Locked Down the Millennial Vote [View all] G_j May 2015 OP

Fabulous idea. InAbLuEsTaTe May 2015 #1

this is one of my red button issues.... mike_c May 2015 #2

Me too Mike davidpdx May 2015 #33

The same people who may be happy today will be unhappy when they start paying this tax. Thinkingabout May 2015 #3

The plan does not tax 401k and 529 plans, no tax for consumers saving. TheNutcracker May 2015 #5

It sure does MaggieD May 2015 #10

With interest at 1%, putting money into money market, etc will not Thinkingabout May 2015 #26

It is a very modest tax kenfrequed May 2015 #41

This is a sales tax on stock purchases, why not raise the taxes on capital gains. Thinkingabout May 2015 #49

This transaction tax helps on both fronts. kenfrequed May 2015 #54

On playing it forward, they would have gone to college for free, if they cannot play it forward why Thinkingabout May 2015 #56

Uhm... kenfrequed May 2015 #58

Why can't college students pay for someone else to go to school in the future? Thinkingabout May 2015 #60

Ok... kenfrequed May 2015 #61

This thread is about giving free college education to students. Hopefully one day they will get Thinkingabout May 2015 #70

The transaction tax is extremely small for common investors. It will raise money and rhett o rick May 2015 #83

That is not true. I've read the bill. Have you?? Joe the Revelator May 2015 #62

Those who will be paying the tax, are going to be unhappy that they finally have to sabrina 1 May 2015 #44

A capital gains increase earmarked for college funding would provide more money. Thinkingabout May 2015 #50

Did you read his plan? sabrina 1 May 2015 #51

Why tax the purchase, tax the gains. Thinkingabout May 2015 #53

Well, it looks like the 'little guys' in the form of Labor Unions eg, are in support of this tax. sabrina 1 May 2015 #64

Shameful, put more tax on the working class, good idea. Why is the unions wanting their Thinkingabout May 2015 #66

Didn't read it, or didn't want to read it I guess. Tax The Rich, is what Bernie is doing. sabrina 1 May 2015 #68

Maybe you do not know little people invest in the stock market, they purchase stock but now this Thinkingabout May 2015 #71

So you are well off enough to purchase stock, good for you. But you don't want to contribute sabrina 1 May 2015 #72

Have you ever looked in the news paper for the prices of stock? Thinkingabout May 2015 #89

Have you looked at what it costs to go to college in this country today? What jobs can students sabrina 1 May 2015 #95

You're right-- your assumption doesn't make sense. Marr May 2015 #87

Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Bernie! Initech May 2015 #4

But he's old! BrotherIvan May 2015 #6

And that hair! n/t RufusTFirefly May 2015 #8

They don't like his "tone" BrotherIvan May 2015 #20

He's too darn angry! Like that Dr. Dean fella from a few years back. RufusTFirefly May 2015 #22

He can't win! I don't care what his ideas are! BrotherIvan May 2015 #24

People won't vote for policies that HELP them!,,,111!!1! woo me with science May 2015 #27

Oh no! Neoliberalism RULZ BrotherIvan May 2015 #39

I suck its giant thrusting white cis hetero colonialist cock every day redruddyred May 2015 #94

Then vote for Hillary! Rockyj May 2015 #36

We're joking about the barbs that have been leveled against him BrotherIvan May 2015 #37

I think people are just having fun with those who think Hillary is 'inevitable'. sabrina 1 May 2015 #45

We love Bernie. Hair and all. Enthusiast May 2015 #74

He sounds like a lecturing grandpa! Autumn May 2015 #34

My one anecdote proves it! BrotherIvan May 2015 #38

Yeah! I could never vote for anyone with hair like that! Enthusiast May 2015 #73

K & R appalachiablue May 2015 #7

And encouraged them to vote! GOTV Bernie!!! cui bono May 2015 #9

Nice to see him jump on the bandwagon MaggieD May 2015 #11

So was single payer. F4lconF16 May 2015 #13

So you must love that HRC MaggieD May 2015 #14

I am happy she did that. F4lconF16 May 2015 #15

I don't understand the fuss about common core MaggieD May 2015 #18

agree, MaggieD SCantiGOP May 2015 #40

To answer one of your questions... malthaussen May 2015 #48

correct G_j May 2015 #16

It's the pay for that will be an issue MaggieD May 2015 #21

any defense cut is fine with me, G_j May 2015 #23

Agreed on that! MaggieD May 2015 #78

I believe you are incorrect. Enthusiast May 2015 #75

From his plan MaggieD May 2015 #76

Link? Enthusiast May 2015 #84

Good thing he already had the Millennial vote locked down then. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #28

He's going to get that most important youth vote. He's been communicating with them on a personal sabrina 1 May 2015 #46

Agreed.My young grandson and his lady both told me that are for Bernie. They like what he is jwirr May 2015 #12

IMO, Bernie hasn't set a foot wrong yet Demeter May 2015 #17

I feel just the opposite MaggieD May 2015 #19

if Hillary did something like this she would be attacked for pandering and trying to buy votes lol n msongs May 2015 #25

Or praised for coming up with an idea on her own, and not stealing someone else's. n/t Dawgs May 2015 #29

The big difference is that I believe Bernie. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #63

+1 merrily May 2015 #99

Well I don't think you have to worry about that. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #80

lmao! /nt Marr May 2015 #88

Everyone would die from shock that she proposed ANYTHING of substance Doctor_J May 2015 #98

K&R CharlotteVale May 2015 #30

That doesn't change anything about a highly competitive global economy The2ndWheel May 2015 #31

Good analysis. We need training on the job, technical schools erronis May 2015 #42

Unless you have another plan to deal with that problem, which Bernie does. sabrina 1 May 2015 #47

"He is opposed to the outsourcing of jobs, naturally." Phlem May 2015 #65

At least graduates wouldn't be in debt for decades before they even get started. Enthusiast May 2015 #77

If anyone wants to know where Bernie is madokie May 2015 #32

thank you! G_j May 2015 #90

Yes, young Americans need to be either educated or trained w/o incurring debt BUT KittyWampus May 2015 #35

But why should teens need to go directly to college? erronis May 2015 #43

I don't see how this locks down the millennial vote mythology May 2015 #52

Its just blatant pandering, imo, to get headlines like this. nt Joe the Revelator May 2015 #86

HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #55

I'm not part of the 1% and I don't have children Boomer May 2015 #57

I would love to see that happen Andy823 May 2015 #59

Sanders is campaigning on a seating change in Congress to go along with his intuitive Bills. DhhD May 2015 #82

Yep, I signed on to that one too. K&R n/t bobthedrummer May 2015 #67

We can hope, but don't count on anyone ever being "locked down." True Blue Door May 2015 #69

June July August September October November December January... JHB May 2015 #79

College And Health Care colsohlibgal May 2015 #81

I'm against a tax on retirement funds stonecutter357 May 2015 #85

unless existing college debt is erased, it gives unfair advantage to new graduates zazen May 2015 #91

Go Bernie. Watching this all unfold is both fascinating and revealing. NRaleighLiberal May 2015 #92

paying tuition is only half the battle tho redruddyred May 2015 #93

But, but, it's a Pony and stuff AgingAmerican May 2015 #96

Not with the media blackout on EBH Doctor_J May 2015 #97

Generally in favor, though I don't know if I agree with the "regardless of income" bit. merrily May 2015 #100