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demmiblue

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59. More false accusations and steering. You are a real piece of work. n/t

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what is the populist movement creating today in the sanders campaign? inclusive? exclusive? [View all] seabeyond May 2015 OP

I thnk they are trying to succede where they failed in 1980. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #1

in their group, they have an OP. change DU to Pu. be the teabagger of the republican party, to the seabeyond May 2015 #2

Any DU group has absolutely no bearing on the outside world cyberswede May 2015 #3

social network has importance this election as i stated intiially when addressing sanders campaign. seabeyond May 2015 #6

I get that focusing only on economic issues CAN exclude social issues... cyberswede May 2015 #11

one, fuckin sentence. in the whole OP that was political. couldnt ask me to take it out? cali seabeyond May 2015 #15

Cali never made an OP attacking you personally. polly7 May 2015 #21

thanks. no I did not make an OP about her. cali May 2015 #25

that is boldfaced false. I did not write an op that attacks you cali May 2015 #27

in the title you called me out per an OP of mine. those in the conversation were aware, seabeyond May 2015 #28

If you were "...called out per an OP of mine...", then it sounds as if you were.......... socialist_n_TN May 2015 #116

Talk about boldfaced lies. You tee'd off on her thread because you R B Garr May 2015 #35

that was hardly all there was to it. I object to misinformation cali May 2015 #37

exactly. everyone listening to calli on that thread, saw her call out in the OP. nt seabeyond May 2015 #41

There was no callout. I can't imagine how you could call it that. NaturalHigh May 2015 #112

Results Bobbie Jo May 2015 #53

lol. yes, I think I can handle it. cali May 2015 #58

LOL, thanks. That's hilarious. R B Garr May 2015 #66

Everyone who read your OP knows that it was NOT a callout. NaturalHigh May 2015 #113

sea, one of your mis-information specialists is at it again. R B Garr May 2015 #34

codswallop. and I have no interest in having her posts hidden cali May 2015 #39

No, paranoid would be following someone around reading things into R B Garr May 2015 #67

yes. nt seabeyond May 2015 #42

WHAAAAAAAAAAAA???? NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #30

The teaparty wanted to get Republicans to support their ideas. cyberswede May 2015 #33

After they were formed by the billionaires, maybe. I was just making sure people understood NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #43

"Formed by the billionaires" MaggieD May 2015 #101

what are you referring to? cali May 2015 #4

This is basically an ill-disguised call out/meta thread. demmiblue May 2015 #7

sure. her last one got locked. cali May 2015 #8

i am asking you all to think. instead you prefer to lock, and change the conversation. nt seabeyond May 2015 #10

think about what? Can you be specific? cali May 2015 #18

i was and have been pretty damn specific in the OP that was locked and examples i have given you... seabeyond May 2015 #19

You may think you were being specific in that locked thread but you cali May 2015 #23

no. mine was locked cause it was NOT passive aggressive. saying it bluntly. YOURS was not seabeyond May 2015 #24

balderdash. I posted a thread to clear up misinformation. that simple cali May 2015 #29

here is a definition of passive aggressive. you have accused me of it too often. nothing passive, seabeyond May 2015 #26

Yes, it is sleazy and has no basis in fact. demmiblue May 2015 #14

are you saying i am sleazy? seabeyond May 2015 #17

'It' being the operative word, not 'she'. demmiblue May 2015 #32

then you are not listening. which is my point. i am far from the only one discussing this. nt seabeyond May 2015 #44

People can discuss, but that does not mean it isn't some made up boogieman devised... demmiblue May 2015 #48

then you own it is not my own boogie man. so you are calling many.... boogieman. in essence seabeyond May 2015 #51

There you go again. demmiblue May 2015 #52

or maybe... it is not about me. seabeyond May 2015 #54

Oh, yes, it most certainly is. demmiblue May 2015 #55

hence, again, the blind of the issue with sander campaign. whatever you do, put it on me and ignore seabeyond May 2015 #56

More false accusations and steering. You are a real piece of work. n/t demmiblue May 2015 #59

one has to wonder about your posts simply being attacking me and not discussing the bigger issue seabeyond May 2015 #60

Lol... truly pathetic. demmiblue May 2015 #61

more insults. lol. who is pathetic? oh me.... sure. outta here. nt seabeyond May 2015 #62

Good, because my initial post stands: demmiblue May 2015 #63

ya. cause you kept it there, post after post of insults instead of discussing the POLITICAL issue. seabeyond May 2015 #64

Lol. demmiblue May 2015 #65

Wow, it must SUCK when people attack you personally instead of addressing political points! Bonobo May 2015 #68

found another thread to go after me. your words. smacked a dude. want to smack clinton. right thing seabeyond May 2015 #69

I was referring to the election of 1980. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #36

Progressives want to fundamentally change the direction of the nation Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #9

Teaparty label carries a lot of bad baggage, but, in general, it is not a bad model. seabeyond May 2015 #12

The Teaparty has elected a controling majority to the House Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #20

yes. and the american public reject. nt seabeyond May 2015 #22

'Their group'. So you are not a Bernie supporter. Didn't you say you were, or was that someone else? sabrina 1 May 2015 #49

What's "PU" stand for? Purity Underground? Cha May 2015 #70

lol. populist underground. they think they should own this site. as well they lead by example. nt seabeyond May 2015 #72

Populist: NaturalHigh May 2015 #114

Is this the OP you keep posting about? merrily May 2015 #102

PS The author of that OP is a member of the Hillary group. merrily May 2015 #122

What do you mean by member? Agschmid May 2015 #137

I've never seen anyone use "member" as a synonym for "host." merrily May 2015 #141

Well it's really hard to be a member of a group since we don't have those. Agschmid May 2015 #149

The difference is Ted Kennedy was a mainstream Democrat with huge potential appeal DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #5

In 1980, progressives split the party and could not support Carter Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #13

I don't believe we would have won regardless... DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #16

Perhaps, but party infightin caused damage Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #38

yes it does. hence me saying. lets not have that infightin'. nt seabeyond May 2015 #46

Did it? Proof? In 2008 we were told how healthy a primary battle that went on well beyond merrily May 2015 #106

It is not a false meme. It is history. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #120

No. It's history that primary challenge happened. That it cost the election is a meme and a merrily May 2015 #121

You don't have to like the history. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #125

I am able to distinguish between history and someone's interpretation of history that is designed to merrily May 2015 #140

Primaries are not eliminated with a sitting President. Most of the time, no one runs against Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #142

Strongly disagree with everything in your post. merrily May 2015 #143

There are a number of good hisory books that cover the development of primary Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #144

They cover whether primary challengers for 2016 have been discouraged? merrily May 2015 #145

The rules goverment primaries are enshrined in state laws. The are histories that cover their Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #146

Wow. Straw men aplenty. You've gone all over the place, but you still have not merrily May 2015 #147

Depends on how you define mainstream. His fellow Senators dubbed him the Liberal Lion. merrily May 2015 #123

I campaigned for Ted Kennedy DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #126

I voted in the Iowa caucus for Carter. As I remember it we just saw him as someone who was jwirr May 2015 #31

Carter is the best elder dtatesman we have ever had. Agnosticsherbet May 2015 #40

Exactly. jwirr May 2015 #47

Their message seems simple to me.... MaggieD May 2015 #45

We Hate DINOs. FTFY. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #73

When you think everyone to the right of... MaggieD May 2015 #77

Yeah PowerToThePeople May 2015 #79

well that may be because you're heavily biased. Scootaloo May 2015 #76

I am biased toward Democrats MaggieD May 2015 #82

Can't tell from all the hate you post against us. Scootaloo May 2015 #83

Just tired of you guys bashing Dems MaggieD May 2015 #84

And I'm tired of so many Dems doing shit that deserves bashing. Scootaloo May 2015 #86

All politics are flawed MaggieD May 2015 #87

How much are you willing to sell off to "win" MaggieD? Scootaloo May 2015 #92

That's the wrong question MaggieD May 2015 #94

No, it's not. Scootaloo May 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author seabeyond May 2015 #97

I see it differently.... MaggieD May 2015 #98

You're evading. What ideals and principles must we sacrifice, in specific, to be more "pragmatic"? Scootaloo May 2015 #99

I'm not evading anything.... MaggieD May 2015 #100

Yeah, you are Scootaloo May 2015 #104

You don't shed "ideals" MaggieD May 2015 #105

To become more pragmatic, one must be willing to sacrifice their ideals. Scootaloo May 2015 #107

This is why you guys never win MaggieD May 2015 #108

What are you willing to give up to win, MaggieD? Scootaloo May 2015 #110

Your repeated question.... MaggieD May 2015 #115

You've just been trying to change the subject Scootaloo May 2015 #132

you know what happened last time we went for the majority and accepted a few Dinos into the party to seabeyond May 2015 #96

It's a huge mistake to confuse Bernie or his campaign with the festering antique lingo of a few DU Bluenorthwest May 2015 #50

You seem very obsessed with "straight white guys" DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #118

I do not see Sanders and/or the populist movement excluding anyone except, the 1%. Hiraeth May 2015 #57

Couldn't tell that from reading DU MaggieD May 2015 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author Hiraeth May 2015 #74

I can not speak to that. I am not here long enough to really know what goes on around here. Hiraeth May 2015 #75

Bullshit. nt LWolf May 2015 #124

Of course it's inclusive, seabeyond. You're welcome to join in if you wish Scootaloo May 2015 #78

good to hear. i will continue to try to shoulder my way to the front line, to stand beside you all. seabeyond May 2015 #80

Come on in, the water's fine Scootaloo May 2015 #81

"I Will No Longer Settle For The Lesser Of Two Evils - Go Bernie Go" here is the problem i see more seabeyond May 2015 #85

If it is about the Populist Group on DU as you say, then this is Meta-crap. nt Bonobo May 2015 #88

take your best shot, bonobo seabeyond May 2015 #89

No shot, seabeyond. It is clear as day. Bonobo May 2015 #90

Have you considered that your worry is misplaced, Seabeyond? Scootaloo May 2015 #91

" they are hateful, irrational, and idiotic creeps.""scream hate at them" seabeyond May 2015 #93

Isn't that the case? Scootaloo May 2015 #103

listen to yourself. "That they're willing to "give up the court." seabeyond May 2015 #117

over and over again we are being told populist has a huge concern for social issues. listen to seabeyond May 2015 #119

The African-American unemployment rate is 11.4%, twice that of whites. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #130

you have your story wrong. i do not dismiss the economics. what i have over you... i do NOT seabeyond May 2015 #134

Pony up some links that *prove* I dismiss the social justice aspect. WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #136

Excellent and outstanding. I mean that sincerely. Enjoy your movie. Nt seabeyond May 2015 #138

Thanks. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #139

It is irrational to call yourself a liberal and then act in a way that would elect someone randys1 May 2015 #128

But that's what we're constantly told to do Scootaloo May 2015 #133

IF clinton wins primary and it a 2016 vote. hell ya. i am saying the same. she is not telling seabeyond May 2015 #135

wow! G_j May 2015 #109

Evidently a "Populist Underground" OP with 14 replies and 7 recs is a "movement." WorseBeforeBetter May 2015 #131

+1 nt Bonobo May 2015 #148

Hopefully a move to the left... NaturalHigh May 2015 #111

I think Sanders wants to change the direction of American politics in a big way Marrah_G May 2015 #127

sanders is far closer to my view on issues, also. nt seabeyond May 2015 #129