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In reply to the discussion: I'm concerned about Hillary. What I know so far, culling actual recent DU posts: [View all]JonLP24
(29,960 posts)and the other sides does too every primary election and I recognize it -- Cali looks like she's been here longer than me so I'm sure she recognizes it. I typed into searches after I joined July '08 or so back into the winter and threads up of supporters using Rezko against Obama that may be fair or not I don't really know but considering the controversy was non-existent (especially on Bill Ayers & Jeremiah Wright) I imagine it was pretty weak. Since I've joined, I've never seen a post using Rezko. Then there is a DUer, who I value his contributions left DU right because he didn't like the new format compared to the DU2 post, really good with numbers & probabilities no good bye post or anything just a mention he didn't like it in a thread at the old Meta discussion that to get the DU2 classic view would cost a subscription and a mentioned he had to learn the costs of a good value and paying to give his opinion wasn't it & poof. Did see 1 & 1 only post right after the midterms but he supported Hillary & no doubt he does again (probably enough hints that called him out but probably on DU2 for all I know) but he would often reference the bad behavior from Obama supporters that they quit according to the PMs he claimed he received which I no doubt believe people want to live over the behavior of others and I have my own stories. Me, personally I know what to expect from what supporters I'm just worried about when my own candidates' supporters come down on me if I feel something isn't right or feel differently on a policy (though I trust his ethics 90% -- can't do 100% because I'd be naive but all I do is care about issues which opens me up to the bad behavior because the debate is illogical if it were on the issues just like this OP here.
A personality here or there will have someone that will give him/her the best defense no matter the issue & always I have to deal with assumptions into motive & assumes that I have bad intentions -- what I have found -- though a salesperson would smile at some of the techniques such as a bullet point listing of O'Malley's accomplishments & Mother Jones names him most environmental friendly candidate -- to be more helpful is to find common ground is things we agree or disagree on & work from there. I often see these bad behavior of the other candidates' supporters opportunity for common ground and so many do post discussing the behavior of your candidate's behavior & vice versa. Some take it (and haven't seen this outside of Obama or Hillary Clinton they can do no wrong type of supporters) that they are voting for someone else because of the behavior of the supporters and so-and-so who. I've seen pretzel logic defense of all kinds of things, attacking is one thing but defending anything no matter what because a personality supports rubs me worse the wrong way.