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In reply to the discussion: What is your problem with socialism? [View all]FrodosPet
(5,169 posts)21. The racial tensions behind Sweden’s idyllic facade
http://america.aljazeera.com/opinions/2014/6/sweden-refugees-racismstockholm.html
June 9, 2014 12:30AM ET
by Sam Piranty
June 9, 2014 12:30AM ET
by Sam Piranty
Last month, I went to Stockholm on a reporting trip. The city seemed idyllic: bicycles aplenty standing unlocked outside at night, Volvos with their doors open and engines running, and not a cigarette butt in sight. In trendy Hornstull, bearded bros high-fived each other over Brooklyn craft beers. But everyone, it seemed, was white.
I got chatting with some of these happy hipsters and asked where I might find some of the million Somalis, Kurds, Iraqis, Chileans and Syrians who began arriving in the 70s seeking asylum in what many perceived to be a Scandinavian paradise. Ever since, Swedens immigrant population has largely reflected wherever there has been conflict or unrest in the world. They live in the suburbs, at the end of the blue metro line, Karl informed me, adjusting his sunglasses in the dimly lit bar. Dont go there now, though, it's pretty dangerous. Theyre pretty angry, and it's nighttime; black people get pretty angry when theres no sun.
Dont you think thats pretty racist? I asked. Karl hesitated for a moment, shooting a look at his drinking companion before removing his Ray-Bans and turning back to me. Im not racist, he said. Im Swedish.
My time in Sweden suggested that Karls articulation of the apparent exclusivity of these two concepts was not an anomaly confined to late-night drinking. Sweden proclaims itself to be an inclusive and tolerant society despite its segregated cities, racial inequality and Islamophobia. But thats false. One only has to look at the main entrance to the Central Mosque in the middle of Stockholm to see the remains of the swastikas painted on the doors. The rise of the far right, and the entrance of the Sweden Democrats into Swedens parliament, have created a space to further isolate those who dont look Swedish. Twice in central Stockholm, when accompanied by two Swedish-born Somalis, I was told to go back to my own country. Recent statistics show a large increase in hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, African-born residents and the Roma community.
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I got chatting with some of these happy hipsters and asked where I might find some of the million Somalis, Kurds, Iraqis, Chileans and Syrians who began arriving in the 70s seeking asylum in what many perceived to be a Scandinavian paradise. Ever since, Swedens immigrant population has largely reflected wherever there has been conflict or unrest in the world. They live in the suburbs, at the end of the blue metro line, Karl informed me, adjusting his sunglasses in the dimly lit bar. Dont go there now, though, it's pretty dangerous. Theyre pretty angry, and it's nighttime; black people get pretty angry when theres no sun.
Dont you think thats pretty racist? I asked. Karl hesitated for a moment, shooting a look at his drinking companion before removing his Ray-Bans and turning back to me. Im not racist, he said. Im Swedish.
My time in Sweden suggested that Karls articulation of the apparent exclusivity of these two concepts was not an anomaly confined to late-night drinking. Sweden proclaims itself to be an inclusive and tolerant society despite its segregated cities, racial inequality and Islamophobia. But thats false. One only has to look at the main entrance to the Central Mosque in the middle of Stockholm to see the remains of the swastikas painted on the doors. The rise of the far right, and the entrance of the Sweden Democrats into Swedens parliament, have created a space to further isolate those who dont look Swedish. Twice in central Stockholm, when accompanied by two Swedish-born Somalis, I was told to go back to my own country. Recent statistics show a large increase in hate crimes against Muslims, Jews, African-born residents and the Roma community.
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My problem with socialism is that we don't have enough of it. We should socialize the banks and
craigmatic
May 2015
#1
Socialize the banks & let the Gov't run them in the interest of the public, you mean.
Jackpine Radical
May 2015
#59
The Scandinavian countries certainly have their problems with their ethnic minorities.
Jackpine Radical
May 2015
#60
I am sure that exists in any society were there are different races. We see it here. And the point
jwirr
May 2015
#61
I was going to say that for years it was equated with the USSR and we were taught to fear them.
jwirr
May 2015
#55
The European countries have Democratic Socialism not communism. What that means is that they
jwirr
May 2015
#68
Most small business owners do not steal, evade their taxes or have hedge funds.
leftofcool
May 2015
#26
Do you know the definition of "small business". 99.7% of all businesses are
Exilednight
May 2015
#112
Have you ever been an owner? Probably not since you think only the workers works.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#17
Marxist economist here: one need not 'trade' to make a profit in any given fiscal year. One need
KingCharlemagne
May 2015
#95
I don't have a problem with capitalism, i also do not have a problem with retaining my profits.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#31
Perhaps there are better ways, some only wants a paycheck and not the headache.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#33
Explotation also would exist in a total socialism state, don't try to exclude those who only
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#36
The owner provides capital. The worker provides labor. This is really simple stuff.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#81
The owners don't provide capital, banks do. Owners of business borrow and the only
Exilednight
May 2015
#114
No, i pay my taxes, I vote and I go to jury duty. I like being a participating citizen. I do not
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#34
Been there done that. Check with them, they can explain it to you. Check to see if the profit the
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#77
Err... did you not read the post? Or are the details of the topic too complex for you to follow?
Starry Messenger
May 2015
#166
Hell is being raised about what the government does and some are wanting the government in control?
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#42
If you read the definition of socialism, yes it is stupid. You can cherry pick and when I read posts
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#44
How about you knock off the accusations, I am not RW. You do not win on make
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#49
That's not what the poster implied, you inferred that others in society are leeches. n/t
Exilednight
May 2015
#116
I did not imply that either, in this run name calling is happening. Where is the need to name call?
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#125
Since I never said I do not believe in "handouts" you are targeting the wrong poster.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#146
It is thinking like your post which makes socialism bad, too much of give me, give me, give me.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#163
Here is another problem, some thinks they know I should have said for their wants.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#165
Hummm, since you seem to study Mitt, you still fail in rewriting my post, not even a good try.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#170
It is really hard on you, false accusations is not a winning suit for you.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#172
Education is and always has been an investment. In the future and in our country. Yes we older
jwirr
May 2015
#72
I never said there are not people who work hard, since I have been employed before I know lazy mu
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#143
That was somebody else who brought up the tax evasion, maybe the accuser is evading taxes.
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#82
Selfish, this is what you can call the college students who gets their degree and think they should
Thinkingabout
May 2015
#87
I was wondering the same thing. If they don't want to pay for my child's education, then should they
Exilednight
May 2015
#134
Yes I am. Unless you went to a for profit diploma mill, your educatipn was partially
Exilednight
May 2015
#138
Let's take a peek at the Socialist Hellhole we'd become under President Sanders
99th_Monkey
May 2015
#13
That we, as socialists or near socialists, do not market ourselves very well.
Half-Century Man
May 2015
#16
I think it's pretty clear that the traditional social-democratic Left is dead in Europe and the US
YoungDemCA
May 2015
#18
You will have to discuss that with the 1% they have all the capital. And they seem to want to
jwirr
May 2015
#75
And that is not Democratic Socialism. What hey have in Europe is and the economic basis for most
jwirr
May 2015
#76
Democratic Socialism works well in worker owned cooperative companies. We need more of these.
Dont call me Shirley
May 2015
#62
FDR used cooperatives to build many of his programs. Not to long ago the power company sent
jwirr
May 2015
#79
Nothing, concerning socialistic programs. But I'm afraid the word itself has lost value as a brand
pnwmom
May 2015
#98
the word is more poison to the voting public than the word liberal it is equal to communist
dembotoz
May 2015
#108
In its purest form, the government would own my car and I've already make all the payments on the
lonestarnot
May 2015
#117
My problem isn't necessarily socialism but, rather, what Americans have been conditioned to...
wyldwolf
May 2015
#119
Me, nothing. My coworker and neighbor, on the other hand. Scared to death of it.
randys1
May 2015
#136
Well for the pretenders here, it helps equalize wealth distribution and that scares the crap out
Rex
May 2015
#162
Socialism works for some things and does not do a good job at others. A mixed market economy is
applegrove
May 2015
#173